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Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

Guest_9546 — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 13:10:41 GMT

I know many people in this generation (in particular the younger ones) like to look good, have beautiful cars, have a big beautiful house with a water view and swimming pool, have lots of good looking clothes, have nice fancy make up, enjoy life, celebrate their birthday, etc but to me I'm the complete opposite, I absolutely hate that and I think that people are wasting their time and money on useless stuff

I think of this generation to be "self centred" where people are spending money on make up and gel to make themselves look better, whether in public or in private. I absolutely hate that because I think that's unneccessary. Who needs to look good in public? No one will look down upon you if you look bad (except maybe an employer who want's neatness in his/her workplace) unless you go to a job interview (and I guess a meeting)

I also get mad when males (in particular) put earings on their ears. I'm not trying to come off as racist but in particular when I see asian males with earings, it makes me so mad

When males (in particular) go to the gym, lift weights, have big muscles and show it off, I get just as annoyed

I think of this generation to be "retarded" because I feel that people are spending unneccessary money on this such as self pleasure but they wouldn't save that money up for something better such as a house (considering how ridiculously expensive houses are in Sydney)

The only people I don't have anything against are just everyday normal people who don't spend excessive money on self pleasure and who work super hard

I know someone who said (at my school) "I'm going to get a dog after my HSC" and then I said to him "are you sure you want one because it will take a lot of time to take care of them. You will need to toilet train them, walk them, wash/clean them, buy them at the rescue, buy food for them, I doubt you would have enough time to take care of them considering you plan to study full time at uni and have a part time job" and he tells he "I have my priorities"

God that just annoyed me (I dont have anything against dogs. I just dont like to have them as pets considering how much time you must devote to them and I just dont simply have the time to do that and am not bothered to. Even if they have mental health benefits and other benefits I would still not like to have them and would find another alternative which is less time consuming and less costly)

There are many more things which angers me which I wont name for now

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Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

JessF — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 23:51:20 GMT

Hello tenebrosity, it seems that you get quite worked up about how other people live their lives, especially if it doesn't line up with the way you think they should think and behave. Given that we have no control over how others think, behave and live, how do you think this is going to work out for you in the future if you keep holding on to this anger?

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

Guest_9546 — Mon, 24 Jul 2017 03:19:23 GMT

This is actually an interesting point and I have no idea how things will come out in the future.

I usually get angered at people who celebrate their birthdays because I think it is useless and a waste of time. Also I think that birthdays don't reflect much on you because physically and mentally you don't feel a year older (even though you are). The only people who I think are allowed to celebrate their birthdays are young children under the age of 13 since they need a happy childhood and the elderly who are 55+ because they don't have as long to live as the younger ones.

If people play computer/video games for self pleasure I wouldn't care (although I think I am wasting their time) because they are not excessively spending money for self pleasure (although they could be spending a super small fraction of their weekly income playing games) but if they spent excessive money on things like clubbing, concerts, etc I get so annoyed

If elderly people enjoy their life I don't care. I think they deserve it after many years of hard work. I also don't care as much if young children do (because it's part of their mental development)

So yes my anger goes into mainly the generation of teenagers to people in their late 50s

I usually avoid social events such as school formals because I get so triggered in rage when I see teenage high school students spend so much money on a formal (not just money to cover the formal but how everyone's so fussed on buying a new formal dress/suit just to look good when there should be dresses that look good)

I also get annoyed when people take excessive pictures. My cousin is a fan of taking photos, every party or so she takes photos and it angers me so much. Even an unnecessary visit to my aunt's house she planned (at one stage) to take photos, I said no and she just wanted photos.

So yeah my plan is for next year and beyond I want to avoid seeing relatives because I don't want to see them wearing good clothes, or putting so much effort into their hair to look good because I hate it so much (as well as avoid being photographed)

I also found it particularly annoying when my Aunt retired early to enjoy her life and not continue work.

I think this generation of people are unfair. Other people have to live a hard life where they dont get to enjoy much wheras these people enjoy life to the max. I think it's just unfair. That's probably the main reason for why I am angered as well as people 'wasting money' which I hate....and yeah

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

Gwynium — Tue, 01 Aug 2017 07:05:40 GMT

cynicism is the worst thing to get caught up in. these people don't effect you, so try to not let it bother you. If you've got the money to do things, you've all the right to enjoy your life. In the end, the meaning of life is subjective and what you make it, so why not try enjoying it?

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

Guest_9546 — Sun, 24 Sep 2017 11:21:27 GMT

My sincerest apologies for not responding to this topic for so long but I think I have OCD because of the fact that I am constantly disagreeing and getting angered towards how others live their lives. I will be seeing a psychologist to help me get out of this

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

swtpotato — Wed, 27 Sep 2017 08:36:24 GMT

Hi tenebrosity,

Thought I would post on this thread as well.

No worries for not replying, it is your own thread so you can use it however you like.

When you go to the psychologist, make sure you explicitly say you are worried/think you have OCD because of xyz, and make it clear you are anxious about getting some kind of diagnosis. They will be able to help settle these worries. Don't feel like you have to commit to the first one you go to as well.

For now think about the irritability/anger that is driving these thoughts, not the people themselves, and the effect it has on you. Not to say you can 'fix' it or anything, just a different way to perceive the 'problem'. It helps to know that therapy will be great for this kind of thinking and the feelings that follow from it.

Hope the psychologist goes well and you are managing things ok.

- m

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

Guest_9546 — Sat, 28 Oct 2017 01:26:45 GMT

Hi Swtpotato

Sorry for the delayed reply

I like the response you gave me because now someone actually understands where I am coming from (even I didn't seem to realise that funnily enough)

Could this me getting angry at people for their "senseless" actions be a symptom of anxiety? (because that's what I have)

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

dragonflies — Sun, 29 Oct 2017 01:14:46 GMT

Hi tenebrosity,

I can relate to what you have said. I can be cynical and pessimistic. If Im being honest when I was younger I was caught up in being self absorbed, wanting to conform and be 'better' than others. Now I despise it. I agree with birthdays, clothes, going to concert, makeup etc - spending so much money and for what!! I literally wear my parents old clothes, 'outfit repeat' every single day and wear whatever I think is comfortable. I will often just go to op shops now because walking into a store to see a top costs $50+ just makes me think woah what has the world come to.

What I wanted to say which I hope helps you see another viewpoint is that you can believe all of that but not be it and feel it. eg I agree with majority of your feelings towards everything but I don't let it all get to me anymore - I don't let myself physically feel the anger. I recognise it and let it go - I'm never going to be able to change how the world works. I try to look at in a funny way and just think it is hilarious how someone can spent $$$ on a wallet when my wallet can hold money in exactly the same way.

I believe we should live our lives for ourselves, and do things that make us happy - can't control anyone else except us. For example when you see someone who has spent god knows how much on a ball dress, instead of thinking woah how could they do that just try to think hey I saved so much more on my clothes that I can have more money to do other things - focus on yourself, the positive side and put your energy into your own life. (In saying that I didn't even go to my ball because I hated getting dressed up)

Anger is a horrible emotion. What a lot of people don't realise is anger is only felt by YOU. Eg Someone has done something to make ME angry. They are not angry about it. No one around them is angry. My dogs not angry etc. The ONLY person who is having to experience and feel that horrible anger is ME. I have to feel yucky and bad. So when you think hard about it whats the point in feeling that deep anger if its only hurting you and making you feel worse. You can say 'yeh I'm angry' but at same time you can train yourself to not feel it, I was a very angry person and now I feel so much better after practicing this. When you see someone celebrating birthday sure say you're angry, but learn how to let go and not feel it because its only felt by you, certainly not by the person whose birthday it is. You don't deserve to feel anger, no one does.

dragonflies

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

Guest_9546 — Sun, 29 Oct 2017 06:42:28 GMT

Hi dragonflies

I know that I have no control over the lives of others, I have control over my life and just mine and that people have the right to live their lives in whatever way they wish to

Thing is due to my narcissistic attitude to people, I still get angered no matter what they do. E.g. a few years ago my cousins and I went to the beach to hang out and my cousin decided to be generous to all of us and spend like $100 in total on ice cream. At first I thought it was really kind of her to do that but then a few weeks later I realised if she could do such a thing for my cousins and I, she would probably be spending a lot more when she hangs out with her friends and her husband. That eventually triggered me in rage and I told my mum and she's like, let your cousin spend as much money as she wants, it's her money not your's in fact be thankful for the fact that she spent so much money for you and your cousins on icecream considering it was hot. Still triggered in rage at her, even today, not because of the spending excessive money on icecream situation but also when she has this immediate desire to take photos and such, yes I get people want to take photographs and such because it's for the memories but wait to like many years later and when you want to look back at all those joyful memories when you were younger, there'd be way too many photos to go through, like I wouldn't bother doing that

I know I said this but I am angered (usually) because I do not tend to agree with the way people live their lives and sometimes it can actually affect me such as when they want me to be photographed or I see them in their fancy clothes that they wear when they're going out. Even my dad can get fussed about my clothing etiquette at times and there will be incidents where I will get angry towards him for insisting me to wear "nice clothing" when I think it's really irrelevant

Also another thing that angers me is people getting spoilt with excessive things such as clothing. I was never spoilt and glad I wasn't.

I think the best thing to be honest is to avoid these people. I think I will need to learn to accept this with meeting up with friends. Also with regards to birthdays, I am not only angry at people for celebrating their birthdays (because I think they're useless) I am now starting to become traumatised by them (because of the fact that I have had bad experiences happening on my birthday) but that isn't related to the topic so I won't discuss it too much here.

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

dragonflies — Sun, 29 Oct 2017 07:07:59 GMT

Yeah, everyone has different values and attitudes towards life. Im sorry to hear yours is so cynical as I can only imagine it takes its toll on just you. I may be wrong but from hearing your experiences and how it makes you feel it sounds like its easy for you to overthink situations and obsess on thoughts and in turn affect your life and relationships. I can do this too trust me. My aunty is so self absorbed that I actually hate her a lot and feel that hatred and anger when she hasn't actually done anything wrong at all except just be who she it

Im wondering if you understand what I was trying to say about anger only being felt by you, the rage you feel isn't felt by e.g. your mother and cousin. Because if so, do you think its nice to feel rage and angry? Does it make you feel better? If it doesn't, then whats the point in letting yourself get so worked up about it and experience full on rage inside? (I understand you can't help it, like myself) Do you agree with any of that or?

I experience anger, I literally lose it anytime, e.g. if my sister has a friend over and she has a shower and uses a towel. I can't stop thinking about how she could've just had a shower before hand, how my sister could've said no and not come and dirty something that I will have to clean (I do the washing and my sister does f* all). All I've managed to do, over a LONG time, practice and encouragement from my dad was to stop and recognise that Im angry rather than being completely consumed by it. Once I was able to recognise it and go oh hang on, I'm angry, why should I have to feel this way, and way way later only now am I better at letting things go QUICKER than before, I'll still feel it at first. Sounds like you've a hard time letting go of anger. Like if you fought with mum would you hold onto a grudge for ages? My dad and I had month on months fights. We've both progressed to move on after a fight in literally matter of hours. It helps a lot in moving on to other parts of life

Im happy to listen and chat if you'd like to talk about anything else? I can be here to try support you

I hope change your mind about avoiding people, I reckon it'll only lead down a dark path - facing your problem right on could be first step to managing and living with it? Try tell yourself family is important no matter how stupid and annoying they are. Sometimes putting on a fake smile and acting all cheery is the best we can do. You may subconsciously convince yourself you're not angry...

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

Guest_9546 — Mon, 30 Oct 2017 02:43:00 GMT

Yeah I know the anger is felt by me and just me. I know being angry doesn't make you feel better, in fact it makes you worse, like I know when I am angered/annoyed I can actually lose focus on what I need/want to focus on as I am too dwelled on another person's attitude to life.

I'll give an example, there was this guy in my high school who gelled his hair, had earings, lifted weights, had a tatoo (I think), and was quite "round". Although he doesn't chat to me or anything seeing him can piss me off then maybe an hour later when I don't see him, I might feel less angered. Everything about his physical looks annoyed me, even the way he acted to others pissed me off. I don't blame him for pissing me off, but I blame myself for reacting to him in this manner (although we have had incidences back in high school where we didn't get along), it's not just him who angers me, it's people like him who have similar qualities to him such as lifting weights, gelling his hair, having earings, etc. I simply think that this sort of stuff is unnecessary. Yes I understand people gel their hair to keep their hair straight so that it doesn't fall down or feel uncomfortable but the fact that he did more than that actually drove me nuts.

Yes there's a reason for why everyone gets angry. In my case it's just me not agreeing with others and thinking what they're doing is unnecessary

I know that in the past when I've had arguments with my family, it would usually take a day to move on but there are occasions where it would take days or even weeks to move on and become normal again. I think that moving on about people and their attitudes to life would be even harder

Yes I appreciate that you're here to listen to me. Thanks for being a good Samaritan and dedicating your own time to help others, it shows that you are truly an amazing person

Well with regards to my cousins, I've already known them for long enough and vice versa. Most of them are like 10 years older than me in fact I have a cousin who I haven't met in like 4 years (I have no idea what he does with his life these days) and I'm sure he's moved on with his life as opposed to visiting his extended family despite knowing each other for so long. I honestly have no idea as to why he doesn't want to visit his extended family and neither does his mum (my aunty) and I don't bother to ask why so I think maybe I could be like him. Whenever I'm angry I usually try to hold it to avoid embarrassment and looking like a fool

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

dragonflies — Mon, 30 Oct 2017 04:38:18 GMT

Yeah its tough because I get how you feel towards life and people. I reckon you dwell more on individual people and what they do for themselves right? Mines similar but I look more at the world in a whole and I just think it is messed up and whats the point of living like we do, buying unnecessary things, people who spend so much time on their appearance, working day in and out just to support themselves but to also buy 'stuff'. Maybe it's to do with their insecurities and what they feel they need to do to be accepted in their society. I find it sad.

I hate dressing up. But if I were to go out, which I don't do often at all. I'll put in the effort and wear some makeup, put on something girly even though I hate it, feel so uncomfortable and look in the mirror thinking I look stupid. Sometimes it makes me feel good, feel more attractive and feminine. But then I start thinking shame that people have to wear makeup and dress up to feel like that why can't we feel like that normally. Earrings and tattoos and appearance is how people express themselves. e.g. I look like a homeless person most of the time. I HATE SHOES - I think why on earth do people wear shoes, what is wrong with our feet why do we have to go out in shoes. I get that many looks and comments when I don't wear shoes it makes me stand out, but I just really hate them, except for uggs in winter. People even think I'm different just because I don't wear shoes - sounds insane to me. Someone once said to me oh wow you're wearing uggs out in uni and I just thought wow how are shoes that are comfortable, outdoor shoes and warm 'unacceptable' to wear to uni

May I ask if you're female or male and you're age? I was thinking what it would make you feel like to put effort into you're appearance one day/night and see if it made you feel any different whether that be stupid, good or nothing.

What do you like to do? What are some things you like e.g. paintings? music? exercise? Is there anything that people do which make you happy not angry? Maybe I can help you to recognise some things that may seem pointless in the scheme of everything, but can add to your life and build on who are as an individual and how you express yourself. I like earrings and piercings myself, I like tattoos too. But thats just me I don't know why I like them. Sort of like I don't know why I hate the colour pink but like the colour blue. I don't know why I hate gucci handbags vs loving a bag made out of cheap material falling to bits.

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

Guest_9546 — Tue, 31 Oct 2017 02:09:48 GMT

Yeah I suppose I dwell on individual people and what they do for themselves. I don't think there is a need for that sense of insecurity. There are clear differences between wants and needs. Needs are essential for survival wheras wants are our personal desires. To be honest a majority of society is more fussed about wants than needs which angers me

To be honest looking good is useless imo, I mean if you're a guy trying to impress a girl (to get a girlfriend or something) or you're going to a job interview then I guess there's no need to be pissed off at people. IMO earrings and tattoos are useless, for girls I think earings aren't a bad thing (depending on the type of earing) wheras for guys I can get extremely pissed (no sexism intended). Like a majority of guys don't wear earings and have tattoos because they would probably think it's unnecessary wheras the guys to do probably think it's neccessary, to make them look cool and like a gangster or something, like back in high school the people who did that thought they wee cool and imo they weren't cool bc no one could give a toss about their dress code. People wear shoes for reasons including the fact that's it's a safety precaution in the workplace and to protect their feet. I mean personally I would get either second hand shoes or super cheap shoes which are less than $20 bc if it serves your purpose (e.g. safety in the workplace) then that's enough. I know in my school all students were required to wear black leather shoes and if that wasn't the case, they would get in trouble (im sure it's similar for other schools as well)

Im sorry but I do not want to disclose my identity at the moment. I wouldn't feel like putting effort into my looks simply because I don't care.

Due to the fact I have depression and anxiety, I don't have much to do in my life besides play pokemon go. Is there anything people do that doesn't anger me? Um...I guess hang out with each other and chat about life? (as long as their not fussed about their good looks). TBH idk what people do that makes me happy, Im hardly "happy" these days due to my mental illness

Some people like things because they are aesthetically pleasing. I get angry when people have "excessive wants" as opposed to "their actual needs" and I can see this with people who went to the same high school as me and my extended family.

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

dragonflies — Tue, 31 Oct 2017 06:59:33 GMT

I agree there is a clear difference between needs and wants. I think that because we live in a well of country and that we are more readily able to meet our needs than other people around the world that gives us the privilege and also undervalued capability to have wants and to get them. If I were working everyday purely to ensure I have food to survive then I'm sure I wouldn't have the same wants as people in our society do, simply because I'd have to put my survival first. I do think that if someone struggling to provide for their family and working to pay for needs who go off and spend fortunes on unnecessary things such as tattoos, materialistic stuff then sure that'd anger me too.

I agree that if people do things like that to try impress other people for some social status or having the idea of wanting to be 'cool' is just useless - because you're right no one cares about their dress code and appearance. However if people do these things for themselves, to make them individually happy not wanting to have any affect on others then I don't see the harm in that at all. Sometimes knowing who someone is and the reasons for their actions can change how we see them.

I do wear shoes at work! I wouldn't be allowed to work without haha. I get your point.

I know how it feels to not care about anything or myself. Though I also know remember how it used to feel when I did. I believed there was so much more to life and being able to care about things gave purpose.

No worries, sorry if I overstepped there in asking.

Sounds like what I'd prefer to do too. Not talk about stupid nights where people went out and drama that happened in their friendship group - I just find it boring.

I hope in time there can be something that can make you happy. Have you ever considered being with someone? That can generate a lot of care and introduce you to how someone else perceives the world.

I know what it feels like to have nothing whatsoever make you happy. One thing that has never failed to make me happy is the dog I've grown up with. I have unconditional love for her and seeing her happy, even just wagging her tail can instantly make me feel better. Would you ever consider having a pet? - something useless I know, but it could give you something to care for and about.

I know it's not as easy as someone saying 'just don't get angry'. I just feel for you in that you're unhappiness and anger hurts you and takes it's toll on your life. I think you deserve to feel happiness...

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

Guest_9546 — Tue, 31 Oct 2017 08:25:39 GMT

Of course Australia is a wealthy country, we have access to things such as medicare, education, etc all (or most) of which are funded by the govt. I mean although things such as Health insurance aren't needed by everyone I wouldn't get angry if people had health insurance or any sort of insurance. From a perspective of budgeting, people would need the following to survive-food, water, electic bills, gas bills, petrol, transport money, insurance (depends on person), some clothing, medication, pots and pans, money to repay the bank after borrowing money from them (i dont remember what it's called) etc and depending on family size, they will need to spend more than others on average. They don't need $300 dresses or $40 tattoos to survive, I mean what can they get out of that? Maybe it will be "Self pleasure" to them but it won't be for others, especially me

Yeah but if these people kept spending so much money for their own self pleasure for long periods of time then I guess (for me) there's a reason to disagree with them. Sometimes ignoring something may be hard e.g. if I were to speak to a male who had earing and I was so angered at him because he had earings I would have difficulty speaking to him but most of the time I try to not look at that person, like I would try to look away and maybe look at a tree or something

It looks like the old you and I are quite similar to each other haha

Have I considered being with someone? tbh no bc I cant imagine myself with someone. I think hanging out with close friends would be an alternative although idk atm (like friends that actually care for me)

If I needed to be "happy" I would need to overcome my anxiety and depression however it takes quite a bit of time (I hope I can make a full recovery by 4 months)

Unfortunately I do not have a pet due to the following reasons-they're unhygienic imo, they take a lot of time and effort to care for (I think this depends on breed), they cost quite a bit of money, etc I find it's more commitment than actual "love" and whenever I see people pat dogs and not wash their hands (usually it's suggested you do it) I can get super scared and not calm down until I physically see someone washing their hands

Only thing that really interests me is pokemon go bc I have loved the franchise ever since I was a young kid and the phone game pokemon go is basically pokemon in real life, it forces you to physically move from one place to another-good for people with a mental illness like me

Thanks

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

dragonflies — Tue, 31 Oct 2017 09:24:55 GMT

The point I was trying to make was once people have met the needs you have talked about, they have the freedom to create wants and to work to get them, even as pointless and useless as wants can be. Take someone who collects garden gnomes what on earth is the point in that - its just their 'thing' it makes them happy. Similar to how Pokemon go makes you happy. People have different ways to create their version of happiness.

If they are wealthy enough and have money that they've worked for (taking donations and helping others out of the equation) then they have earned the privilege of acquiring $300 dressers and $$$ tattoos. Everyone has different choices with what they do with their money, compare it to your choice to not spend money on wants. Both are choices.

I wonder what it would make you think if we looked at the opposite opinion of ours (I don't agree with of course). Say someone who has everything they could ever want got angry at you/me for living in a world where they think we should make the most out of what we are given and can acquire and that we should have wants and pursue them, that they wouldn't understand why you/me took that for advantage. My point is that just like your/my opinions, people can believe their opinions as strongly as you believe yours. It is hard to accept but what else can we do.

Why is there a reason to disagree with people depending on how long they have been giving themselves self pleasure? Whats the difference short to long term?

I'm sorry you feel anger. I wish I could take the emotion away from you because I can recognise how horrible the feeling can be.

Yeh always wishing I could be a kid again No worries in the world

Fair enough. For me I couldn't ever imagine myself with someone until I was with someone. Had to at least try it to form my opinion.

Fair enough too, they can be unhygienic. For me, at first sure its time, effort, money but now she's a part of my life, family. If another dog licked me I would think it was disgusting. I would wash my hands after touching but not with my dog - I love her. If you think about it, in situations, commitment can be love. I understand your point about your anxiety

I don't mean to be fighting every point you make. I get you. It can be helpful to recognise perspectives - which could maybe help with angry feeling. It's helped me accept people, how they go about life, calm down my anger. I began to realise people have the right to their opinion just as much as I have to mine.

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

Guest_9546 — Tue, 31 Oct 2017 10:39:14 GMT

I guess that the "excess revenue" that they earn would be used for saving up for a holiday at the end of the year/beginning of the new year, considering how expensive holidays are. I mean people go on holidays to learn about new cultures, visit new places, learn new things, visit family overseas, potentially start a business, etc. I mean I don't get angered at people who go on holidays like once for a few weeks in a year but if you go on holidays a lot, like at least 4 times a year (like my Aunt) I can get irritated with you. I guess people have garden gnomes for decorations but as long as it isn't excessive then I wont get angered (unless it's a kid who intends to use them for playing or something). Also pokemon go is free to play, all you need is an iphone/android go to the app store and download the game. It was very popular (worldwide) when it first came out however it died out over time due to lack of interest by users. I don't think tatoos or gelling hair or even nice clothing can make one happy, they might feel better but I don't think feeling happy is always necessarily better (sorry if it's confusing. I will expand later if I need to)

Well I guess I have to try and stop being angered at these people and learn to accept the fact that there will be people in this world who will unintentionally piss me off with their clothing, their looks, their way of living, etc and tbh it would probably feel the same (I think) that if people are pissed at me because I refuse to look good, to spend excessive money, etc I would feel "attacked" although I am rather stating that these people aggravate me than attack them (also I get "attacked" by a lot of things)

Um...I think disagreeing with the way people enjoy themselves makes me feel different, like I feel that the more I am exposed to these people, the more "sucked in" I would be into living that lifestyle when tbh I just want to avoid it completely

I think pokemon is a good alternative to having a pet (imo)

I mean personally if I had excessive income, I would probably donate it to charity and various not for profit organisations as long as they had a good cause simply because if I hold all this excessive income, it would be a waste. With my income, I'd only use it for certain survival needs such as food, water, gas bills, insurance, etc. I mean if someone had spent a lot of money on weekly massages, I would prob not get angry bc they might use it for stress relief.

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

dragonflies — Wed, 01 Nov 2017 09:59:34 GMT

I'm enjoying conversing with you. It is interesting to hear how you think and reason in comparison to me.

I'm trying to understand why when someone does something excessively that it would anger you more than if they do it a little bit. For me, if someone goes on a holiday I don't see why going for one week a year vs four times a year is a big difference or big deal. When people go out to experience the world it just adds to their life. I don't think there should be a limit to how much they should do that. The more the better. They'd be filling their life up with memories, experiences etc. Escaping from the dull idea of work, pay, repeat, work, pay, repeat.

Why don't you think feeling happy isn't necessarily better? Happiness is what I believe a lot of people try to find during life. Whether it be through money, people, animals, travel, meditation, giving to others or whatever it may be. Can you try to think of something that is a want that makes you happy. I can already think of technology and computers/phones - it allows you to play Pokemon go which is a want. Therefore I believe you in someway value wants as well.

What can calm you down when you feel angered?

Have you ever had a pet or something/someone to look after physically? I can guarantee you pokemon go would be a very different experience to having a pet, they're another living being who can physically interact with you. I don't agree that it is an alternative... its simply just something else to occupy time with.

Why is having excessive money a waste? What if you gave your money away and then a tragic accident happened and you didn't have security/money to be able to afford things such as medical bills etc, even with insurance.

If you HAD to pick something to do, you would describe as useless and pointless what would it be (even if you'd never do it) I'm wondering what is the first thing you would think of. Something that may have the potential to benefit you and add to your life in a positive way.

I don't believe you'd be sucked in. You have a strong view point and attitude so I can't imagine that you'd do anything you didn't want to do. I just hope you can find some happiness in this world we live in where we have the time to think so much about things such as you do. We aren't spending every waking moment fending for ourselves and trying to survive through the day. This can be a blessing as well as a curse. What do you feel you are attacked by?

Hope to hear from you soon.

dragonflies

Anger towards people excessively spending "unneccessary" things for their own self pleasure

kingsalmon — Sat, 04 Nov 2017 07:06:40 GMT

"...Pokemon go which is a want. Therefore I believe you in someway value wants as well." I need to second this. Self pleasure is unnecessary but pokemon go is ok?

Obviously I don't know you but it sounds like you put more importance on "survival" than enjoying life at all. But why survive if you don't enjoy it? There's no prize at the end for living the most efficient life so honestly what benefit is there in only allowing yourself the absolute minimum?

This is just my opinion on life so if that's the way you want to live then ok, no one's actually obligated to feel this or that. But who cares how other people live? Other than feeling angry, what terrible things happen when someone buys expensive clothes or something? Like why does it make you angry, why do you think its unnecessary? Sure we can survive without those things but like I said, what's the point? If you can't enjoy life, why even have a life? What are you surviving for?

I don't mean to make it sound like a choice, I'm sure it's frustrating feeling like this. Honestly I don't relate and I'm just hoping some thoughts from my side might mean something to you.