<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" xmlns:taxo="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/taxonomy/" version="2.0">
  <channel>
    <title>topic How can I tell if husband is coming out of depression?? in Supporting family and friends</title>
    <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/supporting-family-and-friends/how-can-i-tell-if-husband-is-coming-out-of-depression/m-p/177875#M7983</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi HeartbrokenWife,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As Geoff said, everyone's experience is different.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In my case, I would have moments or hours when I would start to feel almost euphoric - that feeling you have when you are starting to get over some illness. &amp;nbsp;And in the same way, without sufficient emotional stamina to maintain it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;The recovery phase has lots of ups and downs. &amp;nbsp;Over the months, the good moments would stretch, eventually spanning a few days. &amp;nbsp;At the same time, the down moments usually weren't as bad. &amp;nbsp;I still have the down days, but they tend to be relatively mild. &amp;nbsp;I am grateful that my wife can tell when I am having those days and adjusts her expectations accordingly.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am becoming more and more like the me I was before in terms of being present, making sensible decisions, able to hold a conversation, laugh with the kids, choosing to do things.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;To me it seems like a good sign that his demeanour is changing. &amp;nbsp;I know I was quite grumpy before, becoming quite noticeably better as I improve. &amp;nbsp;It is one of the indicators I use to estimate when I started going downhill. &amp;nbsp;Perhaps he is getting closer to accepting his condition (which I consider to be an important step forward)?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also, please go back and re-read Geoff's wise insights. &amp;nbsp;Don't push too hard. &amp;nbsp;Listen to your husband and observe how he is reacting and coping.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As for how he is with you, know that I found that showing and coping with emotions was emotionally draining and intense emotions like love for a partner was very draining. Being affectionate with a pet was easier than with the kids, and hardest with my wife. &amp;nbsp;It took quite some time to build the emotional stamina to hug my wife for more than 5 seconds.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Snoman&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2015 03:09:33 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Snoman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-09-01T03:09:33Z</dc:date>
    <item>
      <title>How can I tell if husband is coming out of depression??</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/supporting-family-and-friends/how-can-i-tell-if-husband-is-coming-out-of-depression/m-p/177872#M7980</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey there everyone,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;my husband has been battling depression in denial for 8 months or so now. He has completely distanced himself from me and our children, blaming us for his unhappiness. Yet the last week or two his demeanor has changed a little in some ways (but not in others) towards us.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;i was just wondering from those who have gotten through an episode of depression, or partners of those who have, how can I tell if the fog is beginning to lift and he's coming out of it? Is it all of a sudden how it came on? Or a slow, gradual process? What behavioral signs and changes would I most likely see first?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Any personal experiences and opinions would be greatly appreciated!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:10:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/supporting-family-and-friends/how-can-i-tell-if-husband-is-coming-out-of-depression/m-p/177872#M7980</guid>
      <dc:creator>HeartbrokenWife</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-08-29T08:10:21Z</dc:date>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>How can I tell if husband is coming out of depression??</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/supporting-family-and-friends/how-can-i-tell-if-husband-is-coming-out-of-depression/m-p/177873#M7981</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;dear HeartbrokenWife, thanks for your comment, and it is a very good question, however everybody is different and there is no general rule although with some people their way of overcoming depression can be similar.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;With me I changed direction but this was only because my wife divorced me and we had to sell our house, and please I'm not suggesting that this should happen with you, as I said everyone is different, but all hobbies changed and the work I used to do as a self employed business didn't interest me any more, which I never thought as possible.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My drinking of alcohol totally changed to becoming only social and was this gradual or a slow process, well for me it was almost immediate, the cloud over my head had lifted, I had to be responsible for myself, because my family were about 2 hours away and a good mate who lived close to me had passed away.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;With your husband his change could be gradual as he would take more notice of what the kids are doing, such as playing a sport so he may want to go and watch them play, assuming that they do play a sport, but already his  demeanor has changed which is great.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Can I just say and this is my opinion only, that if he is over shadowed with too much love and attention it could back fire, because all of a sudden from being a person who hasn't opened up to anyone in such a long time, then he could become embarrassed and want to go back to within himself.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There is a fine line of where do we draw that line, remembering that everyone is different, and only you will know this.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So instead of saying it's 'great to have YOU back', what about the 'kids really love their sport', so the enjoyment is spread around between you, your kids and your husband.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I don't know whether this answers your question. L Geoff. x&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2015 20:34:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/supporting-family-and-friends/how-can-i-tell-if-husband-is-coming-out-of-depression/m-p/177873#M7981</guid>
      <dc:creator>geoff</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-08-29T20:34:12Z</dc:date>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>How can I tell if husband is coming out of depression??</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/supporting-family-and-friends/how-can-i-tell-if-husband-is-coming-out-of-depression/m-p/177874#M7982</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks Geoff that's a good insight...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;can I ask, what changed first for you, your interest in doing more things with friends and family? Or the way you treated people?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;you see, my husband hasn't been going out quite as much or anywhere near as late for the last few weeks, has begun interacting with our young kids a bit more, offering to help with them so I can have a breather and generally being around more in family time (he previously said downtime as a family drove him mental and he had to escape it)....but he is still fairly down and cold towards me....&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;does that seem like a logical pattern it may follow?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2015 22:34:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/supporting-family-and-friends/how-can-i-tell-if-husband-is-coming-out-of-depression/m-p/177874#M7982</guid>
      <dc:creator>HeartbrokenWife</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-08-31T22:34:52Z</dc:date>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>How can I tell if husband is coming out of depression??</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/supporting-family-and-friends/how-can-i-tell-if-husband-is-coming-out-of-depression/m-p/177875#M7983</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi HeartbrokenWife,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As Geoff said, everyone's experience is different.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In my case, I would have moments or hours when I would start to feel almost euphoric - that feeling you have when you are starting to get over some illness. &amp;nbsp;And in the same way, without sufficient emotional stamina to maintain it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;The recovery phase has lots of ups and downs. &amp;nbsp;Over the months, the good moments would stretch, eventually spanning a few days. &amp;nbsp;At the same time, the down moments usually weren't as bad. &amp;nbsp;I still have the down days, but they tend to be relatively mild. &amp;nbsp;I am grateful that my wife can tell when I am having those days and adjusts her expectations accordingly.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am becoming more and more like the me I was before in terms of being present, making sensible decisions, able to hold a conversation, laugh with the kids, choosing to do things.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;To me it seems like a good sign that his demeanour is changing. &amp;nbsp;I know I was quite grumpy before, becoming quite noticeably better as I improve. &amp;nbsp;It is one of the indicators I use to estimate when I started going downhill. &amp;nbsp;Perhaps he is getting closer to accepting his condition (which I consider to be an important step forward)?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also, please go back and re-read Geoff's wise insights. &amp;nbsp;Don't push too hard. &amp;nbsp;Listen to your husband and observe how he is reacting and coping.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As for how he is with you, know that I found that showing and coping with emotions was emotionally draining and intense emotions like love for a partner was very draining. Being affectionate with a pet was easier than with the kids, and hardest with my wife. &amp;nbsp;It took quite some time to build the emotional stamina to hug my wife for more than 5 seconds.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Snoman&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2015 03:09:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/supporting-family-and-friends/how-can-i-tell-if-husband-is-coming-out-of-depression/m-p/177875#M7983</guid>
      <dc:creator>Snoman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-01T03:09:33Z</dc:date>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>How can I tell if husband is coming out of depression??</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/supporting-family-and-friends/how-can-i-tell-if-husband-is-coming-out-of-depression/m-p/177876#M7984</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks so much for your reply snoman!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Its so helpful to get an idea of where my expectations should be, and to understand that it's a gradual process makes it easier to continue to support him through it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;it is extremely helpful to know that I should probably expect his general demeanor towards me to be the last thing to change so I'm not caught up taking it personally that everyone else seems to be getting a slightly better side of him.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;i really appreciate your insight and advice as it's a topic that is extremely hard to find any information on due to it being such a personal experience for everyone.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2015 21:48:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/supporting-family-and-friends/how-can-i-tell-if-husband-is-coming-out-of-depression/m-p/177876#M7984</guid>
      <dc:creator>HeartbrokenWife</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-01T21:48:27Z</dc:date>
    </item>
  </channel>
</rss>

