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Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

No one on earth — Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:23:49 GMT

Hello, I was wondering if anyone has had any experiences of revealing to someone that they have had BPD and how it went.

Any advice about wanting to tell someone that they really could benefit by getting some treatment for BPD such as DBT would be most welcome.

This person actually made me aware of the personality disorder and they stated to me that they could have it. They are trying to give advice to a friend of theirs who has a daughter who has BPD (I cant remember if they were diagnosed officially sorry) They have some Narcissistic personality disorder traits which apparently is common. So I think there might be a good start maybe. Not counting on anything though as they go up and down.

Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

Guest_1643 — Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:48:05 GMT

Hi,

I would not advise anyone to diagnose another person with bpd

Re revealing to someone they have bpd, that's a fairly subjective opinion, and psychiatrists ideally should meet and know someone well before diagnosing them

Bpd is a highly stigmatised diagnosis.

Sometimes it can feel very hard and even devastating for someone to tell you they think you have a pd.

I think it's best that we each focus on our own mh..,before trying to tell others what we perceive is their illness.

Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

No one on earth — Tue, 22 Feb 2022 09:23:02 GMT

Ok, I understand. That's a shame because they might be able to get help but wasn't sure how it might be taken.

Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

Guest_1643 — Tue, 22 Feb 2022 09:34:55 GMT

I don't think telling someone Ur view of their mental illness will lead to them getting help.

It feels oppressive. I also want to gently say that you may be wrong, and they don't have bpd.

Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

Guest_1643 — Tue, 22 Feb 2022 09:40:14 GMT

If it was you, and someone told u they are certain u have bpd, and u should take dbt classes, how would u feel

DBT is also criticised in the peer community, some ppl don't like it, don't find it helpful, and find it made their trauma feel worse. Ppl with and without Dbt.

Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

Learn to Fly — Tue, 22 Feb 2022 11:11:08 GMT

Hi No one on earth,

I agree with Sleepy21 and would also not advise on telling your friend about your personal suspicion and treatment that might help them. You sound like you wish them well and I have no doubts your opinion is coming from the right place and having only the best intentions for this person. However, unless you are a specialist in the field, this is still only your suspicion/opinion. I don't mean to disrespect your suspicion/opinion but it might happen that you will do more harm than good, if you are wrong or if they are not ready to hear this news.

How about you think about how to gently encourage them to talk to their GP or to even give Beyond Blue a call and talk to one of our counsellors (1300 224 636)? When you see that they feel low, you can encourage them to go and see a specialist. Don't tell them about any diagnosis. Just encourage them to simply have a chat with a specialist and see what the specialist would have on offer.

What do you think?

Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

Guest_1643 — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 05:52:48 GMT

Hi I agree with learn to fly

If someone told u a book was amazing and u should Read it, but they never read it themselves would u follow their advice?

Unless u urself have done dbt classes and have bpd, or are very open about Ur own struggles with mh, it might be hard for someone to follow Ur advice about dbt.

I don't have bpd but personally have been suggested bpd classes and I don't like dbt or connect to it.

I think bpd is misunderstood, it has a connection to being terrorised and having trauma , and yet ppl talk anout it as tjpuhh it's just a mysterious illness, mostly affecting women, that ppl attach to anyone who is difficult, changes Jobs often, or gets emotional.

After experiencing trauma, instability, irritability, and emotional behaviour are normal....

Maybe we can try and understand why ppl feel and act the way they do, I think that's more important than a Dx.

What has Ur friend gone through in their lives, and how does this affect how they behave now?

I think that's more important than wether they have bpd.

Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

No one on earth — Fri, 25 Feb 2022 11:16:42 GMT

Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

No one on earth — Fri, 25 Feb 2022 11:19:10 GMT

I would not say it like that. I would say that they might have it and explain where I have seen them struggle. Then maybe after the reaction, I would say that I had heard DBT is good but this is all theoretical as I don't know know how anyone would take it hence why I put it on here first to see what others have experienced.

Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

No one on earth — Fri, 25 Feb 2022 11:20:02 GMT

Oh ok I dont know too much about DBT. Good to know thanks for sharing

Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

No one on earth — Fri, 25 Feb 2022 11:21:02 GMT

That is very good advice thank you!

Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

No one on earth — Fri, 25 Feb 2022 11:26:11 GMT

Ok, I hear what you're saying but it's a very long story. I will take on board what you have said and really think about it.

Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

No one on earth — Fri, 25 Feb 2022 11:31:22 GMT

And I think I have had BPD traits but I grew out of them. I think we all have emotions and the connected mental thinking processes that go along with them. I just notice fear is a strong theme to anyone who is struggling with their mental health in every which and complex way. But everyone is on their own journey to their own truth. I understand I should just lend a hand and refer to the experts and that is good advice I don't know why I always think I have to fix everything.

Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

Guest_1643 — Fri, 25 Feb 2022 11:42:24 GMT

Hi no one on earth,

Bpd is one of the most stigmatised mental health diagnoses.

if ur interested in it and how it develops, maybe u can read anout it or watch YouTube stuff about it?

it is also a personality disorder, one of a fair few , they are divided into 3 clusters, a, b and c.

Because of the stigma attached to bpd, I don't think it would be helpful to tell someone u think they have it,

If it helps u understand urself, or others, that's great and maybe researching it might help u...

DBT is just one of many models of therapy.

It's not my preferred choice. It's not the only choice.

Maybe another therapy will suit Ur friend, or no therapy at all.

My friend is on the spectrum I believe, but I don't feel compelled to tell him that,

I think it's best only if someone asks you Ur opinion, as it so delicate.

I Also think bpd is really hard to diagnose, it's not simple, u can't really know just by a few external factors.

And then, there are even ppl who don't believe in personality disorders at all...it's a big can of worms!

Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get treatment

geoff — Fri, 25 Feb 2022 13:51:09 GMT

Hello No one on earth, some good advice has been given to you.

'Everyone is on their own journey to their own truth' but can be distracted and talk to them about this needs to be done when they are in a stable condition, but there is no instant cure, however, those with the most support and understanding may improve sooner than those who are left alone.

Be aware and write down, if possible, any small things that may trigger a reaction.

Geoff.

Re: Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get

No one on earth — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 15:19:42 GMT

Depending on the points they make about how I could improve my life for the better I might choose to do it. I'm only coming from the angle of how I would express it to them, as I see they are affected so much by perceived abandonment and having break downs to do with communication or black and white thinking at work and with others, which keeps leading to financial and social instability. But I am not in their shoes so I dont know and to be honest with you I cannot help them its their journey I just hope they find the information on the way I guess.

They originally told me they think they have it but yes I hear you its very dangerous water. Dont worry I realise I do not have the capacity to help this person anyway. But I wish them all the best

Yes you have a very good point. Yes I noticed that.

I have ordered two books about it and I have been learning a lot about it online through clinicians and diagnosed individuals etc. It's very interesting. You are right its not my place

Re: Anyone have any advice on telling someone they most likely have BDP and encouraging them to get

No one on earth — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 08:09:49 GMT

Thank you Geoff that is a very thoughtful response