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    <title>topic Re: Hi AMW,  Thank you for opening up about something so pain... in Relationship and family issues</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you Sophie M.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have been talking to Counsellors, psychologists and even a psychiatrist over 3 years now.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have been diagnosed with severe depression.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My partner has also been having phone sex with this woman, when he cannot meet her physically.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So he can and has been cheating without even leaving the house!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I know I cannot trust him anymore.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Even if he says he never will cheat again, he's done enough to prove he can do so much without feeling guilty, for years.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:19:53 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>AMW</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-12-22T12:19:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/616489#M56016</link>
      <description>Hi, I'm a mother of 3 and have been married for 19 years. 3 years ago I found out that my partner is cheating on me, with an ex-girl friend. He has been cheating on me on and off with this person for about 22 years. Yes, he has been cheating on me prior to getting married too! Since I found out, I have been completely distraught, felt like my whole world has ended. He is apologetic, and wants to work it out with me. But I do not trust him. He lied and cheated for 22 years. Everything I know about his affair to date are things I have found out through other people. He has never disclosed anything 'new'. I feel so isolated and alone. My kids do not know anything about it. When I am with them I pretend everything is normal. But I am dead inside.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 03:22:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AMW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-22T03:22:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Hi AMW,  Thank you for opening up about something so pain...</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/616490#M56017</link>
      <description>Hi AMW,&lt;BR /&gt;
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Thank you for opening up about something so painful. It takes a lot of strength to put words to that kind of heartbreak. The things you have described would shake anyone deeply, and it’s understandable that you’re feeling isolated and empty after discovering the betrayal and having to hold everything together for your children.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Sounds like you’ve been doing your best to stay strong for your family, but it’s also important that you have support for yourself. Sometimes talking things through with someone outside the situation, like a &lt;B&gt;counsellor, psychologist, or the Beyond Blue Support Service (1300 22 4636)&lt;/B&gt; can really help you begin to process everything and find small steps toward healing.&lt;BR /&gt;
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You deserve understanding and care right now. You don’t have to carry this pain alone, and reaching out here is a really good first step.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Take gentle care,&lt;BR /&gt;
Sophie M</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 03:23:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Sophie_M</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-22T03:23:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hi AMW,  Thank you for opening up about something so pain...</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/616500#M56018</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you Sophie M.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have been talking to Counsellors, psychologists and even a psychiatrist over 3 years now.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have been diagnosed with severe depression.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My partner has also been having phone sex with this woman, when he cannot meet her physically.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So he can and has been cheating without even leaving the house!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I know I cannot trust him anymore.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Even if he says he never will cheat again, he's done enough to prove he can do so much without feeling guilty, for years.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:19:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/616500#M56018</guid>
      <dc:creator>AMW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-22T12:19:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/616504#M56019</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi AMW - sorry to hear you are going through this trauma. Feeling dead inside is a completely normal and expected response to a significant trauma. It will get less overwhelming in time with the right support.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think it is reasonable to think you cannot trust him. Staying in a relationship after that is bound to impact your mental health.&lt;BR /&gt;Do you still live together? The difficulty is planning your next steps if you wish to exit the relationship. I suggest you get support from family/friends and engage a family lawyer as a matter of priority to get advice on where you stand and what the next steps could involve.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you decide to separate you will need to talk to the kids. A psychologist will be able to assist with an appropriate approach.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thinking of you at this difficult time&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 13:24:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Picture</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-22T13:24:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/616509#M56021</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Picture, thank you for your message. I do find the whole 'separation' topic stressful. At the moment we are living together, co-parenting. Our relationship is civil, we never argue in front of the kids, hence they know nothing about it. My oldest is 16. I want to tell her about this when she is 18. Alot of our extended family know about him cheating and also the phone sex. And did I mention, he has also made videos of himself masterbating for her. She has saved these videos, and her husband has found them. Apparently in those videos my partners face is visible and recognizable. My family are known to this woman's husband, and therefore my family know about the videos. I am worried that someone in my family will tell my kids, before I have a chance to tell them. They need to hear it from me. My partner and I agreed couple of years ago that we will tell the kids together. However, he is now backing down on that. He thinks the kids need not know until they are well into their 20s. This is because he is afraid that my daughters will not want to speak to him or have anything to do with him once they know. I keep reminding him that the kids still need to know, as we run the risk of someone else telling them, if we do not.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any advice on this?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 23:26:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AMW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-22T23:26:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/616593#M56030</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi AMW - my thoughts are as follows:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. Remaining in a relationship with someone you cannot trust will likely detrimentally impact your mental health and self worth.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. My understanding (and I am no expert) is it is possible to separate but live under the same roof, co-parent but not be in a relationship together.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. I think not telling the kids what is going on is probably impacting your mental health. You are carrying a heavy burden largely by yourself.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4. I agree I think it is important to be honest with the kids, but it needs to be in a sensitive way.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Eg. ‘After much consideration Dad and I are no longer together as a couple but we have decided, at least for the time being, to co-parent while living together in this house. Dad has made some choices that broke my trust and we are now both doing the best that we can in a difficult situation. We are both still your parents and we both love you very much and will always support you.’&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If it were me I would not tell the kids about the cheating in any level of detail as I would worry this would only make matters worse for them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5. Even if you don’t plan to live separately anytime soon, I suggest you still get legal advice as to where you would stand should this happen down the track. It may take some of the fear and stress out of this possible outcome.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I hope this helps. Thinking of you&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2025 06:58:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Picture</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-25T06:58:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Picture, thank you once again.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In regard to telling the kids only a high-level version, the issue with that is, a lot of the extended family know about it. Especially my family. They will not spare any of the details&amp;nbsp; as they hate my partner. They will tell the kids the true story, as they do want the kids to know how bad he is.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My worry is that, the kids are going to hear all this from someone other than myself and him, and that will totally ruin my relationship with my kids.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also, I don't know if I can live under the same roof with him&amp;nbsp; and be separated. It would be too hard emotionally.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2025 11:33:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AMW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-25T11:33:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi AMW&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It is a difficult situation for sure.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Given what you have said it seems you need to consider:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*whether you will stay with him (knowing that you cannot trust him); or alternatively&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*make plans to separate in separate residences (suggest legal advice before any action is taken).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If you decide to stay with him, I would keep the disclosure of his breach of trust/infidelity high level and state that you are both working through the issues (if this is the case).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Alternatively, if you are planning to separate in separate residences, I suggest you mention that you keep the breach of trust/infidelity high level and then state that you are no longer a couple, but will always love and support the kids. In this case, legal advice regarding separation would be advisable.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You could just say to the kids that you both wish to keep the other details of the breach of trust/infidelity private while you both work out what the way forward looks like. I think it would be useful to request your family keep the details private so as not to further hurt the children. Even if they later find out further details from family, I don’t think the kids would be upset with you (if anything they would probably more protective of you). I do think honest high level communication is appropriate, but I would avoid giving details personally. However, you know everyone involved and are best placed to understand how people will handle this situation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Wishing you the best as you consider this further.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2025 12:18:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Picture</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Picture&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My family absolutely hate him. They think I should leave him. I kept saying to them that I must stay until the kids are a bit older.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I do think that I will not stay long. Living like this is not sustainable. Also, I don't want to live with someone I cannot trust. I will get older and I will grow more vulnerable with age. I don't want to be doubting everything he is doing, where money is being spent, etc, for the rest of my life.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Given his interest in porn, phone sex, etc, he's bound to cheat again.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2025 03:41:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AMW</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi AMW&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I see what you are saying. You are planning to leave but are waiting for the kids to get older. I agree staying with him would likely be detrimental to your mental health. In this regard, my thoughts are the earlier you can exit this relationship the likely better it will be for your wellbeing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;If you are planning to stay for a bit longer, I suggest you use this time to plan the end of the relationship, living and financial matters etc so there can be a relatively smooth transition when you decide to end the relationship. Legal advice will be important in this regard. Also, it will be important to have psychological support in place for yourself and for the kids in case they need it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I am not sure how old all the kids are but perhaps discussing what you are planning to say to the kids with a family lawyer would be wise particularly where the approach is not agreed with your partner (in case it impacts custody arrangements). Also, talking with a psychologist about how to approach it in the circumstances could also be helpful.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;You deserve a relationship that makes you feel valued and respected. I understand it is very difficult to make these big decisions when the family dynamic is involved. Wishing you all the best&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2025 06:52:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Picture</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you Picture.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sharing my worries in this forum is helping me so much! Thank you for being a sounding board.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My kids are currently 16, 14 and 9.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I want to tell each of them when they are 18 years old.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I fear that they will find it too hard to handle if I tell them any earlier than that.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have discussed this a lot with my psychologist, GP and psychiatrist.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Although they all agree that I should tell the kids, it is which version and the timing that their advice differs on.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have done some research regarding the legal side of things too.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My partner will demand shared custody for sure. Which is one of the reasons why I will wait to tell the kids. When they are 18, they do not have to be under any custody arrangement. They can do what they want. If their relationship with their father is bad, then they do not have to live with him, even if it is only part of the time.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have also considered the financial aspect. If the kids are 18, they will be financially independent. Of course I will support them with some things, but the bulk of the expenses are gone (such as school fees, extra curricular activities, etc)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I cannot afford full-time custody of the kids on my own roght now. So if the kids are over 18, then they will be able to pay for some things on their own.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't want to have to depend on my partner for any child support. It will be very difficult with him.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2025 08:21:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AMW</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi AMW&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I am glad sharing your worries is helping you. Sometimes these things are too hard to face alone.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When you say you are planning on leaving soon, what timeframe are you thinking?&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Is it that you are planning to separate before you reveal to the children the circumstances surrounding the separation (ie infidelity)?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;While it is good you have started to consider arrangements post separation, I would still suggest legal advice that is specific to your situation. My friend recently attained legal advice in a relationship breakdown and the lawyer had very practical suggestions for her regarding the bank account, staying in the house, her likely financial entitlement post separation etc&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can understand there is a lot to consider. Hoping you can enjoy some time with your kids while considering these difficult issues.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2025 09:11:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Picture</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello AMW,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am so sorry to read about your situation. There is a horrible tension that exists when anyone is trying to decide whether to stay or to go. I have heard that ruminating on that question brings more pain. In my experience it did. That perhaps the only thing to do is to focus on yourself, your own healing etc and then the answer as to whether to stay or go will emerge as you work on yourself. I hope that's helpful.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also I have read that the impact of an affair discovery is considered betrayal trauma, and therefore is a full on trauma - as your brain and body would be telling you right now. It is so important to recognise the fact that it is a trauma, and therefore be super caring toward yourself and give it the weight it deserves.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The only way through then is complete focus on yourself and your own therapy, health etc. Your feelings about whether to tell the children are fair enough. It is a tough one. In the end you are doing your best to navigate an extreme situation, with pressure coming at you from many different angles. You sound like a very caring mother who wants the best for the children. May you feel the support of good people/services as you step though this one tiny step at a time. Take care.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:42:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Fadinghope</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you Picture and Fadinghope, for your caring words and suggestions.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I say I am planning to leave, I do recognise that it cannot be anytime soon.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My youngest I only 9, and he is very attached to his father. Even a shared custody arrangement at the moment would distress him too much. And I don't want to give my Partner more control over my son than I have to.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have another concern that my son will end up being like his father, as to him his father is the 'ideal man'. He's sporty and smart, etc. My son considers him a hero.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't know when I will leave. All I know is that I have to wait until my son is a bit older.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I know I have suffered a huge traumatic even. When all this came out I was diagnosed with severe depression. I lost a lot of weight. I blwas just 46kg. I looked sickly.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I was given meds by my GP, and then from a psychiatrist, as the meds from the GP were not enough.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I was suicidal too. Even now I have dark moments when I just wan to run, keep running, I don't care where I go or what happens to me.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I do think I have come a long way from 3 years ago. Although there are still days when I cry a lot, I am able to keep putting one foot before the other each day.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2025 09:32:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AMW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-12-30T09:32:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/616920#M56085</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Hi, I’m a mother of two young kids, married for 8 years. Recently I found out that my partner has been secretly visiting an erotic massage place and watching pornography. This has happened a few times over several months, even after we’ve had intimacy together.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I feel completely shocked and betrayed. It’s not just the acts themselves — it’s the secrecy and lies. I only found out by accident, and I don’t know if I can fully trust him right now.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I’m trying to keep life normal for the kids, but inside I’m anxious, sad, and unsure if things can ever feel safe again. He says he’s sorry and wants to fix things, but I need honesty, transparency, and consistent action to even start rebuilding trust.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;It feels isolating, and I’m struggling to process it while also managing work, children, and daily life.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;i wrote a post about it too here in the forum. I am not sure what to do but like yourself it is hard to leave due to kids. it feels so lonely . Humiliated and betrayed. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2026 04:07:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/616920#M56085</guid>
      <dc:creator>tramezzini</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-07T04:07:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/617160#M56149</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi tramezzini&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for sharing your story. I know exactly how you feel. The fact that your partner can lead almost a 'double' life is the most concerning and worrying thing.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;From my own story, the other thing I ask myself is that what if it never got caught? It is obvious that the double life would have continued.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My partner did admit several times that he would have never confessed or come out with it, if he had not got caught. He would have continued to do it, as for 22 years he managed to do it and not get caught.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My partner also promises he will never do it again, and that he is sorry.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But I can't trust him now. Everyone around me, including counsellors and psychologists I have seen, tell me that I should not trust someone that lied and did all this for so long, never confessed themselves and didn't feel bad about it until he got caught.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Trust is hard to build. My partner now thinks that I should just forget what happened, put it in the past, forgive him, etc. But it is easier said than done! I can't just roll over and think that it is all in the past, all is well now.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That would be foolish!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How are you managing the rest of the family? Does anyone in your family know?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In my case, most of my immediate family know. And that adds so much more shame and burden to the situation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please keep sharing and talking about your issues. It will help you.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2026 22:38:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/617160#M56149</guid>
      <dc:creator>AMW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-13T22:38:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/617255#M56175</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Since I last posted, things have become emotionally unstable again. We had a short period where communication felt calmer and more open, which gave me some hope. But when I tried to express feeling overwhelmed and needing respect and safety in communication, the situation escalated quickly.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;During the conflict, I was told that the relationship is “dead,” that nothing will change in the future, and I was asked things like “do you blame me for going to other women?” I was also told that I’m over-emotional and that my reactions are the real problem.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;What I find especially hard is that once things felt calm again, it’s as if the betrayal and the discussions we’ve had are forgotten. That makes rebuilding trust feel impossible. He also cancelled therapy counselling..&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I’m trying to stay focused on keeping life stable and safe for the children, but emotionally this is exhausting and heartbreaking. I’m sharing because I feel very alone and confused about how to move forward when trust, accountability, and respectful communication keep breaking down. I am all alone, I have no one here.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2026 19:40:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/617255#M56175</guid>
      <dc:creator>tramezzini</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-15T19:40:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/617304#M56182</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi tramezzini&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please do not think you are alone. There are so many people who are in similar situations. I am one of those people.&amp;nbsp; I started this message thread because I feel isolated and alone.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For what is worth, you are in a similar situation to myself. So you are not alone.&amp;nbsp; You can always share your woes in thisthread,and I will support you anyway i can.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am also focusing on my kids, and my job. I want to give my kids a stable home, and raise them the way I always envisioned. To do that I have to stay in this marriage. If I leave I will be a single parent,and I will struggle with the day to day management of my kids. Plus I will struggle financially. Once my kids are grown up, and have moved out, I will leave too.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As you, I know I cannot trust this man. He's selfish, and if he could have an affair and not get caught, he will undoubtedly not turn away from that chance. He has no morals or values. The question is always if he could do it, and not get caught. Not about what is right, and how many people's lives would be impacted by his wrongdoing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My partner is also into pornography. Apparently it is something he and the woman he cheated with have in common. They like watching&amp;nbsp; porn, and also making pornographic content themselves.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is another reason why I know now that I can never have a meaningful relationship with him.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am so different to him.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Another reason why I've decided to stay in this marriage until the kids are grown up is that I worry what he might expose the kids to, if we were divorced and had shared custody of the kids.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't know what kind of people he will bring home, and expose the kids to.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;At least while I'm living in the same house, I can ensure my kids safety.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please take care.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2026 09:33:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/617304#M56182</guid>
      <dc:creator>AMW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-17T09:33:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Isolated and alone, marital issues, etc</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/618470#M56358</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Being dead inside tells you your not safe... he will use and abuse you as long as he is getting what he wants. Men like this have serious issues im not aure what they are but I think they belong in a different category rather than a human being... people can hurt people make mistakes and absolutely no one is perfect but cheating is abuse its a cycle ... I hope that id you have support either some where to go or for him to leave it would hurt so so much but without him is a better future for you and your children you won't belive it coming from a stranger but in time you will see and it will disgust you... everything you know about it he hasn't told you which probably means they are so many more lies and deception its hard to face the truth but I think in your heart you know and thats the last part to let go after the vicious cycle of trauma and betrayal xo&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2026 22:32:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/isolated-and-alone-marital-issues-etc/m-p/618470#M56358</guid>
      <dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-20T22:32:17Z</dc:date>
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