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    <title>topic Re: Depersonalisation - alone forever? in Relationship and family issues</title>
    <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/depersonalisation-alone-forever/m-p/575215#M50044</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear CountingCrows1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Indigo22 and Tony W/K have given you some pretty good things to think about, it is amazing how others can see things differently than oneself.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now reading you post above I'm not sure the answer is giving up or thinking you are not suitable or have the wrong ambitions.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sadly it is a fact of human nature if one is treated badly or not valued over a long time then one can start to think one is treated that was becuse of some fault - not being a worthy or important person.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This spills over into a defeated look at romance, kids and so on. It probably may also mean one selects a poorer type of companion not realizing one can reach for the sky.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;May I suggest if you were able to regard yourself as a 'catch'. Someone desirable and able to give to a relationship so as to make anybody content and happy to cherish you&amp;nbsp; then I suspect everything else would fall into place. You do have a lot to offer, from ethical standards to empathy plus the determination to slog though tertiary learning. Couple that with the wisdom gained in the past.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now I quite realize that having a depersonalisation disorder can be a hindrance to this, and to relationships (and work) in general. However it is not a brick wall that stops everything, and hopefully in time you will have therapy that helps both that and self-esteem.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I married someone over 40 with 'baggage' and we have had 30+ happy years together -so far:) I wish you the same joy, it's quite possible.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Croix&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:22:33 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Croix</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-09-25T14:22:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Depersonalisation - alone forever?</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/depersonalisation-alone-forever/m-p/575032#M50030</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am too scared to find a partner because I don't trust my ability to find a good man. I have depersonalisation disorder and it makes navigating life very difficult. I am always dissociated. I have a lot of pain from my childhood and past experiences, so I always want to see the good in people. I can never see the red flags. I also want to stay with the guy until I am 100% sure that I should leave, so I have wasted years this way. Now I am almost 40 and single because the dissociation has contributed towards my poor choices.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now I feel like men run when they see my age because they assume 1: she wants to have kids immediately, see ya! or 2: she can't have kids/healthy kids anymore, see ya! or 3: she can't have kids, but she's attractive so she's good for sex only.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Not all older women want to have flings. Some of us made poor choices and have been treated badly and really REALLY just want to finally be loved.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But I don't want to burden anyone with having to be with me. That's the problem. The depersonalisation disorder is not noticeable for others, it is a hidden disorder. But it is very noticeable for myself on the inside. It causes me fatigue and also I need to spend time always masking (kind of like autistic people do, to try to appear normal and be accepted in society). I do this to make other people comfortable, because I can't be my natural self. So this is exhausting in a relationship. If I dropped the mask, the guy would get bored or frustrated with me being tired and flat/zombie all the time. If I am in a relationship, I subscribe to a lifetime of not being myself through exhausting masking. Which is no fun for me.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Then I second guess if I should be/could be a mother. If I have kids, could I handle it? Would it make my dissociation and masking difficulties and fatigue worse? But would not having kids be a huge regret? Because I have so much love to give and I want to help them and watch them grow and create a beautiful family and give someone the gift of life. But would it backfire and I wouldn't be good at it? But then am I being selfish because I didn't bring a beautiful person into the world to enjoy the world and have life?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So many uncertainties. So I just stay alone. I haven't had a proper relationship for almost ten years now. Even those relationships I had were the poor choice ones with abuse involved. I haven't had a nice, loving, respectful relationship since 2006. No wonder I have given up on being able to identify a nice man. I had two beautiful relationships prior to 2006. But we were young and when you are under 22 in Australia, many people just break up to explore other options. I wish I held on to one of those relationships as there was not one good choice after that. Now I am almost 40 and I am too scared to try my last year to maybe find a man and have a family. Is it slipping away from me? Will this be the biggest regret of my life? I am guessing I will get all the 'life can still be wonderful without children, there's always adoption replies.' For me adoption is not feasible financially and I don't really agree with some of the ethics of international adoption. I am also a single woman and the amount of adoptions that occur domestically in Australia is minimal, let alone to a single woman who is not financially stable and has deperosnalisation disorder. I could have a family if I met a lovely man, but I don't think I could do it alone.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Well this has been one huge negative rant and I apologise for that. Thank you for reading and I hope that you are ok if you are also on this forum.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2023 19:05:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/depersonalisation-alone-forever/m-p/575032#M50030</guid>
      <dc:creator>CountingCrows1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-22T19:05:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Depersonalisation - alone forever?</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/depersonalisation-alone-forever/m-p/575215#M50044</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear CountingCrows1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Indigo22 and Tony W/K have given you some pretty good things to think about, it is amazing how others can see things differently than oneself.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now reading you post above I'm not sure the answer is giving up or thinking you are not suitable or have the wrong ambitions.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sadly it is a fact of human nature if one is treated badly or not valued over a long time then one can start to think one is treated that was becuse of some fault - not being a worthy or important person.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This spills over into a defeated look at romance, kids and so on. It probably may also mean one selects a poorer type of companion not realizing one can reach for the sky.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;May I suggest if you were able to regard yourself as a 'catch'. Someone desirable and able to give to a relationship so as to make anybody content and happy to cherish you&amp;nbsp; then I suspect everything else would fall into place. You do have a lot to offer, from ethical standards to empathy plus the determination to slog though tertiary learning. Couple that with the wisdom gained in the past.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now I quite realize that having a depersonalisation disorder can be a hindrance to this, and to relationships (and work) in general. However it is not a brick wall that stops everything, and hopefully in time you will have therapy that helps both that and self-esteem.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I married someone over 40 with 'baggage' and we have had 30+ happy years together -so far:) I wish you the same joy, it's quite possible.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Croix&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:22:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/depersonalisation-alone-forever/m-p/575215#M50044</guid>
      <dc:creator>Croix</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-25T14:22:33Z</dc:date>
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