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    <title>topic Taking illicit substances and falling into an altered state of mind while married and in a loving relationship in Relationship and family issues</title>
    <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/taking-illicit-substances-and-falling-into-an-altered-state-of/m-p/427285#M31861</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;here goes.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I’ve separated from my wife 3 years ago, due to ongoing issues I had with  drug addiction. Mostly Ice.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It lasted for about 2 years, I made several&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;attempts to get clean but somehow found a way back. we had a good home and were very much in love.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;the shame was unbearable at the time. and to make it worse, I went to defensive mode, I couldn’t handle the anger that came from her, and started  being very responsive toward her confrontation of the situation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;its now been 3 years clean! But...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ive lost the house and spent Lot of money on lawyers with a financial separation. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Lost my car and job. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also lost all our mutual friends who at one point were my best friends. I’ve actually spent the past two years taking it out on them as I felt they facilitated an expensive and long drawn out separation. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I still feel immense guilt and shame and it Consumes my mind everyday. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I recently tried to return to work and got a good job, and apparently impressed, but every day I would show up with crippling anxiety, I found it very hard turn my head when someone approached me, I would feel&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;like I was shaking and they could see it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;one day one of the directors asked me to join him and get a coffee, walking back my hand holding the coffee would tremble and I’d spill it, we stopped three times to clean up the spill. I told him the cup was too hot... I would  hide out in the toilet for 10 mins to catch my breath. And stop trembling, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;after a while I just stopped showing up. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So they’ve given me time out.. which means I’ve lost my contract, they did say they liked having me and wished I could continue with them. So theirs prospect of more work with them.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My main issues though are centralised around the devastation of my separation, and my petulant behaivior toward one and all thereafter. I am now alone and with friends. I feel like this is what I deserve. I’m 41 now and am starting all over again in all facets of my life, I’m territiary educated so it’s not a complete disaster!  Albeit the crippling patterns of anxiety and complete lack of sleep each and every night. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:14:50 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Billyc</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-04-11T14:14:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Taking illicit substances and falling into an altered state of mind while married and in a loving relationship</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/taking-illicit-substances-and-falling-into-an-altered-state-of/m-p/427285#M31861</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;here goes.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I’ve separated from my wife 3 years ago, due to ongoing issues I had with  drug addiction. Mostly Ice.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It lasted for about 2 years, I made several&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;attempts to get clean but somehow found a way back. we had a good home and were very much in love.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;the shame was unbearable at the time. and to make it worse, I went to defensive mode, I couldn’t handle the anger that came from her, and started  being very responsive toward her confrontation of the situation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;its now been 3 years clean! But...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ive lost the house and spent Lot of money on lawyers with a financial separation. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Lost my car and job. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also lost all our mutual friends who at one point were my best friends. I’ve actually spent the past two years taking it out on them as I felt they facilitated an expensive and long drawn out separation. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I still feel immense guilt and shame and it Consumes my mind everyday. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I recently tried to return to work and got a good job, and apparently impressed, but every day I would show up with crippling anxiety, I found it very hard turn my head when someone approached me, I would feel&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;like I was shaking and they could see it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;one day one of the directors asked me to join him and get a coffee, walking back my hand holding the coffee would tremble and I’d spill it, we stopped three times to clean up the spill. I told him the cup was too hot... I would  hide out in the toilet for 10 mins to catch my breath. And stop trembling, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;after a while I just stopped showing up. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So they’ve given me time out.. which means I’ve lost my contract, they did say they liked having me and wished I could continue with them. So theirs prospect of more work with them.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My main issues though are centralised around the devastation of my separation, and my petulant behaivior toward one and all thereafter. I am now alone and with friends. I feel like this is what I deserve. I’m 41 now and am starting all over again in all facets of my life, I’m territiary educated so it’s not a complete disaster!  Albeit the crippling patterns of anxiety and complete lack of sleep each and every night. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:14:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/taking-illicit-substances-and-falling-into-an-altered-state-of/m-p/427285#M31861</guid>
      <dc:creator>Billyc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-04-11T14:14:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Taking illicit substances and falling into an altered state of mind while married and in a loving relationship</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/taking-illicit-substances-and-falling-into-an-altered-state-of/m-p/427286#M31862</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Billyc,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;Congratulations on being 3 years clean. That is an enormous achievement! I feel that is worth celebrating:)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;It sounds like you’re really struggling at the moment though. You have clearly been through a lot and have lost a lot along the way.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt; I feel the fallout from addiction can be devastating...you sound very lonely, on edge at times and I sense your feelings of deep remorse...&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;But all is not lost, you also obviously want to turn things around and are very willing to try again. I admire that...&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;I wonder if there’s any chance that you could try to make amends with  a friend or two. Is it okay if I ask if there’s any chance you could reach out to maybe 1-2 friends, have a very honest conversation and apologise for the past 2 years, and promise to do better (and follow-through with actions) and see where that goes? They may or may not be receptive, but at least you would be trying to build a bridge...&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;As for the work situation, I think despite the time-out, you clearly left a positive impression on them. That’s definitely a positive, and as you said, maybe there’s a way back in. But I feel perhaps it would help to deal with the anxiety, etc before trying to return to work. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;For example, if you haven’t already, perhaps you could see your GP and ask for an extended appointment to enquire about a mental health plan. The plan entitles you to a certain number of Medicare rebatable psychologist visits...just a little idea.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;If you feel like sharing/writing, it would be nice to hear how things are going with you. No pressure of course...&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;Kind and Caring thoughts,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;Pepper&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:00:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/taking-illicit-substances-and-falling-into-an-altered-state-of/m-p/427286#M31862</guid>
      <dc:creator>Peppermintbach</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-04-11T22:00:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Taking illicit substances and falling into an altered state of mind while married and in a loving relationship</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/taking-illicit-substances-and-falling-into-an-altered-state-of/m-p/427287#M31863</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Pepper&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;Thanks for your reply, in particular pointing out the positive elements of it, it’s hard to see them when I’m inside then bubble.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;I am seeking a mental health plan through a local GP, I was advised of this through some time in triage. I’m also at the point where im&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;willing to take on medication as prescribed. and your spot on regarding returning to work at the right time! I guess I am the one that creates the “right time”, this forum is terrific and has an abundance of resource and connection,&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;I am remorseful, and that’s my biggest hurdle at this point, letting that go! I think I’ve done my dash with my friends, things got pretty severe. Maybe down the road,&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;thanks for getting in touch.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;what did you mean ongoing consultation?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2019 11:52:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/taking-illicit-substances-and-falling-into-an-altered-state-of/m-p/427287#M31863</guid>
      <dc:creator>Billyc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-04-12T11:52:55Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/taking-illicit-substances-and-falling-into-an-altered-state-of/m-p/427288#M31864</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Billy,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It’s great to hear from you again. You’re most welcome and thanks so much for writing back &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I’m very happy to hear that you’re finding this forum helpful and hopefully feeling supported as well.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think it’s great that you’re seeing/have already seen a GP. Maybe, in some strange way, a little break from work is what might be helpful for now. As you said, when you’re ready to return, you’ll know it...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sorry, I’m not sure what you meant by “ongoing consultation”...were  you referring to my comment about how you would be entitled to a certain number of Medicare rebatable psychologist sessions under the mental health care plan? Thanks.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hopefully we’ll hear about how you’re doing when and if you feel up to it...no rush or pressure...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Kind and caring thoughts to you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Pepper&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2019 08:40:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/relationship-and-family-issues/taking-illicit-substances-and-falling-into-an-altered-state-of/m-p/427288#M31864</guid>
      <dc:creator>Peppermintbach</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-04-16T08:40:39Z</dc:date>
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