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help me with my options, relationship issues

batman0504 — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 06:58:14 GMT

Hi there,

im new to this i have literally nowhere else to go or anyone to help. i have been in a relationship for almost 6 years, im engaged. our relationship has been a rocky one as have only really been with each other and nobody else. over the years we have had some amazing times and horrible times, she has had a rough upbringing which has taken its toll on her and a very very bad parent that controls her life even post 21 years of age, this controlling effects her profusely and through her effects me too, we have been trying to move out so we can try and live a life of our own and test the waters as i cant handle it anymore. she is on a similar boat but she also feels guilt towards abaonding her family despite their actions and carelessness towards her. we recently had a sizable arguement regarding our future she has come around and is trying to put in the effort to continue on however im feeling quite scarred and damaged from this and all the previous 5 years of arguements that its starting to leave a bad taste in my mouth towards her which i know isnt her fault but im starting to contemplate if our relationship really is what i want or is the right thing to push for.

ontop of this i have a best friend that i have known longer than my partner who happens to be female and gets along no worries with my partner. however previous to meeting my partner i had a crush on this friend and i decided that it wouldnt ever happen and i should move on, fast forward 6 years to present day and recently its come to my realisation that i am not over that crush, long story short my best friend fits my life better than my partner ever could and i have her almost on par or higher on my priority list for personal reasons not associated with being madly in love with her. im trying to decide if this is a phase and i can live with the crush buried in my head and push through with my relationship or if i should call it quits be single and wonder what could have been and/or sit and wait to see if my best friend ever comes around and confesses some unknown love for me that im not aware of. this friend of mine genuinely makes me feel like the luckiest person in the world and brings me more happiness than my partner ever could dream of. i know this sounds all quite bad but please dont judge me i cant control what i feel. i love both of them but on different levels and i am at wits end with what i should do. 😞

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Chloe_M — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 07:42:10 GMT

Hi batman0504,

first and foremost... Welcome! I'm glad that you have found your way to the BB forums, and welcome to the family 🙂

Your situation sounds tough... The question is, what feels right? Do you think you will be happy with your current partner? You're engaged- obviously, you've made it this far and love each other. You need to do the right thing for you. If you feel that its not going to work, being single is better than being a bad relationship. Keep that in mind.

This best friend of yours- you say that her and your partner get along fine. If she makes you happy, she sounds like a very important person, and if you feel that she is worth pursuing more than your current partner, then I think that you should do what feels best.

However (and sorry to be a bit blunt), what if she doesn't love you? Say you end it with your current partner and pursue your best friend only to discover that she doesn't love you like that? And if she does, you get into a romantic relationship, and then it ends badly, it may have destroyed years of friendship and trust and love (even if its not the romantic kind). I speak from experience when saying that relationships can ruin close friendships. My best friend, who is also my ex, dated me and we were in love, but he broke up with me to protect me from things going on at home. Thanks to him, we are still best friends, still in love, still single, but we aren't as close to each other as we used to be. He broke my heart and his along with it.

Ah sorry I went off on a tangent. Have you considered relationship counselling? They are trained in dealing with tings like this and I'm positive that you wouldn't be the first person they have seen dealing with this.

Until next time, good luck, and remember to be honest, and look after yourself.

Chloe

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batman0504 — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 08:32:51 GMT

HI Chloe_M

thanks for your reply, that is exactly the issue I'm dealing with right now, is I'm trying to decide what to do for me to make me happy as well as whats best for the both of us, yes we love each other dearly and have come this far, but theres so many pro's and con's to both options, my best friend is so much like me in every way it we almost finish each others sentences its uncanny, and thats my fear i leave my relationship become single and pursuing a relationship with my best friend would be pretty rough as you had said, i wouldn't be really able to pursue a relationship with them unless i got signs that they felt the same way, which i have and haven't got again 50/50 they are so much like me we almost are able to read each others minds and were quite open. she knows i loved her in the past she new it and i admitted it later down the track incase someone had mentioned anything to her, she thinks i have moved on and got over her but thats the big kicker that i have hidden from her for years for the sake of friendship and not knowing where id stand. she isn't one to judge either she knows feelings aren't controllable you feel what you feel and you can't help that.

so I'm thinking what if i do be single again for what ? what if its all for nothing and being single isn't going to reduce the pain as much, it will reduce it because I'm no longer in a relationship so thats a small weight off my shoulders of pain but is it the way to go?.

the thing that really is driving me is my best friend is able to make me laugh and smile and feel like the most important and lucky person in the world and if i were to be put on the spot and help one of the two if they were drowning id pick my best friend as bad as it sounds cause of the bond we have had over the years and things we have helped each other though. some people have told me to end my friendship so then it forces me to not have that issue but i couldnt imagine a life with out her, and she's told me the same thing that she couldnt imagine a life without me in it. so thats not an option at all.

i always imagined being in a relationship would feel amazing and I'm not saying mine hasn't (obviously not currently) but i imagined my partner to be everything this friend of mine is, so I'm looking at my life and i feel like I'm with the wrong person cause she fits the build better. but she may not even be an option at all.

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batman0504 — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 08:35:51 GMT

also i don't want to throw away something (relationship) for nothing if it turned out to be the best thing for me, and on the reverse i don't want to stay and keep this relationship if months or years down the road i fall into the same depressive state with the same issue all over again i feel like it could hinder progression with my relationship, i couldnt imagine seeing my best friend saying a speech at a possible wedding of mine without feeling upset inside that she isn't the one beside me. sounds horrible i know but I'm just being honest. i have never been weak minded i struggle with decision making because i don't find common ground easily but i have never been put in a position where I'm stuck 50 /50.

i have considered relationship advice but neither of us were keen on it as a friend of ours had given it a go with bad results.

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Chloe_M — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 10:39:55 GMT

Ok, so it sounds like you are on the right track when it comes to recognising that you need to do what's best for you. Thats the first step to fixing a problem- recognition.

Don't feel ashamed of like a bad person for saying that you would pick your best friend over your partner if both were drowning- I completely understand that you have this bond that feels like it's unbreakable. I know what it's like to not be able to imagine life without someone. It's not very pleasant.

Don't listen to these other people when they tell you to end the friendship- that's stupid. Why would you throw away something so meaningful? It's like what you said in your third post, about not wanting to end the relationship when it could possibly be the best thing for you, but keep in mind that the future is unwritten- anything can happen.

if you're getting mixed signals from her, I feel like there is a good chance she might return your feelings. I get this from my ex all the time, and I know that he still loves me. I feel like you need to let her know that you love her (as in show her- being playful, flirty?), especially since she thinks you have moved on, but this would be extremely tricky and possibly dangerous, as your current partner may not take it well and end it (your current relationship). I feel like that works better as a single person.

Your best friend sounds like a lovely girl. You mentioned that she doesn't judge, and makes you laugh and feel like the best person in the world. She reminds me of my ex a little. He made me laugh for the first time in months a couple of weeks ago.

I hope this helps- sometimes it's just good to talk to someone- and remember to stay honest and open to both your partner and your best friend, as you never know what might happen.

All the best,

Chloe

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batman0504 — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 16:02:54 GMT

Hi Chloe,

thanks for your reply, yes i do agree it is very very dangerous and risky and if i were to try that id have to be single because it would come across a little easier. but that puts me back to square 1, give it all up be single and just see what happens, maybe it'l happen maybe it wont. or B stick this out and see where it goes if it fails it fails least i tried. the part I'm concerned about is if it doesnt fail and succeeds i want it to feel right and feel good about this decision rather than having it succeed at an average feeling where you just say well it hasn't failed and its going OK i guess so it is what it is, if this is to succeed i want it to feel the way i feel when i am with my best friend i want it to feel right and make me happy, and thats what scares the me the most i guess. cause if i don't feel that then i have no choice but to quit and I'm not a quitter cause I'm stubborn and i don't give up. but i may not have a choice, and the ultimate killer is time, everything takes time and i don't know how long things will take, id be distraught if i stuck it out and it was average and then i discovered i lost an opportunity with my best friend, but again thats a risk in itself, its a stab in the dark.

and our friendship is pretty open there isn't anything we don't talk about, my partner knows we are best friends but doesnt know the level we are on as we talk and have always talked a decent amount and have both been afraid to show it to the light of day cause i don't think my partner would quite understand if she new how much we talk and how open we are to each other, so half of the friendship is essentially a secret. being honest about it runs the risk of her questioning it or judging one or both of us which is why we keep the finer details under wraps

and realistically I'm back to my original post lol. literally not knowing what to do :\. but i do appreciate your help i do

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Chloe_M — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:26:53 GMT

Hey,

I feel like people dwell on the past a bit, and think too much about the future (not saying you are), like "oh what could have happened if I did this instead of that" and things like that. It happens to all of us, but some of the decisions are bigger and more important than others. No matter what you do, there will always be a myriad of other things that could have happened had you done something differently.

Not being a quitter is good- it sounds like you are the type of person who is determined and strong. Are you like that?

I understand what you mean by your partner not knowing about how open the friendship is. Let me ask you a couple questions- you don't have to answer if you don't want to.

Do you want to be honest with your partner about the friendship? Set all issues aside, would you tell her?
Is your friendship so stable and open that you would be able to express your feelings for her (best friend) without scaring her or being judged?

Sorry if I'm not much help, I don't really know that much about relationships lol, but I'm glad if I helped in any way. Helping people here is a passion of mine and distracts me from my own anxiety and depression.

Good luck batman0504

Chloe 🙂

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batman0504 — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 05:40:33 GMT

Hi Chloe,

i am like that, but probably too strong for my own wellbeing sometimes that i can't give up when i probably should have a long time ago, i sometimes don't know when to say i have given it a good enough shot, because to me giving up is failing and i find it hard to make that decision.

i guess it would be nice to open up to my partner and tell them, but i can almost guarantee that it would cause problems and opening up to my partner doesnt just drop me in the water it drops my friend in there too. which as you would expect would cause a whirlwind of hurt.

i have opened up to my friend and admitted that i liked her in the past which i think i mentioned before i know she understands feelings well in the respect that she knows that you can't help how you feel which i know she's said before in discussions, but opening up and telling her how i feel right now at this point in time scares me because as much as i know how she thinks reacts and all i feel like it would risk our level of friendship because things said and done would now be looked at from a different angle if that makes sense.

i can completely understand that i usually quite enjoy helping people with issues they face or for guidance or advise as i find it helps me stay distracted from my own thoughts and processes so i can totally understand where you are coming from, and your replies do help to an extent its nice to hear it from someone else sometimes.

cheers

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white knight — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 06:14:54 GMT

Hi Batman, always wanted to meet you lol

Chloe has given you some good advice.

I think for a while think about just your current relationship. Putting the friend aside for a moment, are your difficulties with her and her family easily overcome?

see my concern is her family's hold on her. That in itself is a serious issue. If you cannot leave her parents behind to be alone to approach the big wide world together without her strings to her parents then that issue can bring you both down to a separation. I do get so annoyed with controlling parents of adult age likely as my mother tried controlling me up to 54yo when I said "enough". I haven't seen her since and never will. That's the kind of effect it can have on us.

So evaluate this within a reasonable timeframe say a couple of weeks. Ask questions of your partner. All to do with leaving her family home and starting life with you. If there is too much procrastination then that's your answer. If there is a "lets do it" then that's your answer.

The issue with your friend and the level of crush you have for her is such that if your partnership has problems then you will feel needy of your friend more. This is why settling the first bit is priority.

If you separated from your partner for a week or two on the basis of "getting your head together with your future" then that move could generate some answers because you are in a difficult situation that needs radical moves to get you answers. You could explain your need to be alone for a while and think about things. This will/should spark your partner into a mind frame of action not words. She might visit you to decide to live together and as you already have a base of love and support, it could result in the better decision. Because a crush isn't love. I do admit though that your connection eg saying things together etc is exactly what my wife and I have like we came from the same womb.

Clarity is what you need and talking about it can only go so far, action speak louder than words and your partner could be told that from you. Its her call.

Tony WK

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Chloe_M — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 06:15:15 GMT

Hi again,

I definitely agree with you that it would put the friendship at risk, and I wouldn't want that to happen.

Your situation is tricky. It would be ideal to let it all play out how it is supposed to (so basically do nothing), but the fact that you are unhappy with the way things are now restricts that. I don't want you to continue feeling the way you are now- that's why I'm trying to help you.

I know you mentioned that your mate had a bad experience with a relationship counsellor. Maybe you could see Headspace or see a regular counsellor? I'm sure they would be able to help somehow. You may benefit from that more than doing nothing. After all, us here on the forums (well me at least haha) aren't professionals!

Hope you had an okay day,

Chloe

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batman0504 — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 14:13:06 GMT

Hi White Knight,

glad you got to meet me finally, il let alfred know.

thanks for your support and advice, and i agree and understand, and i think the issue is she is able to jump to a conclusion and say lets move out but with time she falls back into the rut and routine, when things settle down she's quite guilt driven because her mum has brought her up like that, her mum is far from a mother/parent figure. so she's always tied back down also because she has siblings that she doesnt want to lose her mum is able to control her through them too..

as for my friend i understand what you are saying however its definitely not a crush, its been with me for well over 7 years now and in my eyes she's been my soulmate but due to circumstances its not really quite do able so it is how it is.

i think i will just steady it out for a week or two and see how things go and really speak it out with my partner and see if i can gauge common ground with a future and questions regarding that,

and Chloe, thankyou for your efforts also i really do appreciate it you words and help has definitely made me feel less isolated !! my day was okay, hope yours was good too

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Chloe_M — Wed, 11 Apr 2018 20:25:48 GMT

Haha, nice one! Tell Mr Pennyworth I said hello 😉

Also, you're welcome. I'm glad that I have done something to help. I see that you have mentioned you are going to steady out for a week or two- does this mean you have a plan? Or the beginnings of one?

Hope all goes well with your partner

Chloe 🙂

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batman0504 — Thu, 12 Apr 2018 09:05:52 GMT

i don't really have a plan so to speak. i think first on the agenda is i need to sit down with my partner for some ground rules and i guess things i can and cannot accept going forward. thats about the only plan i have so far, so when i have gotten past that, if i get past that then il be back and let you know how it went

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Chloe_M — Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:36:57 GMT

Ok, that sounds good. Let me know how it goes 🙂

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batman0504 — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 01:11:13 GMT

Hi Chloe_M

thought id tell you how things are going. theyre not so to speak, we sat down laid ground rules and thats all well and good now, but im still dealing with my own issue of feelings towards her and towards my friend, the feelings i have towards my best friend are too strong to trump. so at the moment im just sailing by each and everyday trying to buy myself more time in hope something will sway me one way or the other. its not something i can choose between - not easily anyway. im too stubborn to be forced to choose i run more on the lines of fate and how things pan out, at somestage something has to give and give me an obvious push in the right direction. everytime it feels ok between me and my partner and i think i can do this or least give it a shot my friend crosses my mind and it reminds me that im not sure if i can or not cause i dont want to find out later down the track i cant deal with it and have to leave my partner because the feelings are too strong - if that makes sense. so im feeling a little more social just i still ahve the demons in my head im battling 😞

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Chloe_M — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 03:28:48 GMT

Hey batman glad you stopped by. Was thinking about you the other day, wondering how you were going. Was a little relieved to see your name in my new threads.

So it seems like you are going okay, even though as you say you are battling your demons. Your stubbornness is a good thing- you are not going to give up easily on either of them. And it does make sense.

good to see you again, take care xx

chloe

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batman0504 — Thu, 26 Apr 2018 05:41:27 GMT

thought i would give you an update, things arent good, im not further in this than before. my partner is putting ina great deal of effort to try and make this work, obviously she doesnt know the entire story of whats going on in my head. everytime i think i might be able to push on and continue in my relationship ideas cross my mind of my friend and the endless possiblities not to mention how much happier they make me and then it pushes me back into a rut. and i cant manage to get out of it. is my only option to leave my relationship? or will it get easier and i can push on? is there ever going to be any form of sign thats going to get my options moving and out of this rut or am i destined to sit here till i cant do anything anymore or someone around me walks away 😕

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Chloe_M — Thu, 26 Apr 2018 20:56:52 GMT

Hi, good to see you again. Your situation is a tricky one- by choosing one you lose the other. I don't know what you should do, I don't want to pressure you into doing something you feel isn't right. So I would say go with your gut, and if your gut says do nothing for now, then do nothing.

Im sorry I really don't know how to help, but I can support you. I will support whatever decision you make.

Sending strength

Chloe

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batman0504 — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 01:09:08 GMT

i guess i have a decision in my gut or heart, but its not strong enough i keep doubting it. so i guess i have been waiting for a push in the right direction but havent had one yet so to speak. without a push or sign i dont really want to go with any direction yet 😕 its been a good 3 or so weeks now maybe more i dont know how much longer i can go on for

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Chloe_M — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 01:22:18 GMT

Hey there,

Can i ask, what is this decision that isn't strong enough yet? You don't have to answer, but I won't judge whatever you say if you choose to answer.

Maybe you need to be the one to 'push'. Maybe arrange something with your partner and your friend, I remember you saying they get along well. Make advances at improving both relationships, romantic and friendly, see where it takes you. Just a thought.

Stay strong... You will get through this and I'm by your side xx

chloe