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Partner with depression (ruining perfect relationship)

Speakforchange — Mon, 17 Sep 2018 04:58:40 GMT

I have been with my partner for a year, and although all relationships have their ups and downs I can honestly say we have had the greatest year, with love, laughter, great holidays, understanding and support and open communication about everything.

I knew my partner used to speak to someone a few years ago but that is all I knew, I also have gotten professional help once for some life direction at a time where I was a little lost but I was never clinically depressed or anxious. I assumed he meant the same thing. I found out that he was on medication and only came off it 1.5 years ago and was diagnosed mild to moderate depression/anxiety. I was surprised that he had not told me this sooner, the reason I found out was because I had moved into his place and we decided to live together as we basically were already, the only thing that changed was me paying rent and the title of me 'living' there.

One night he would not have sex with me, came home and had taken some drugs which he never does, maybe one since I have known him, plus some other strange behaviours that week.This was upsetting for me, he said something had changed and he felt like the dynamic had changed and he didn't know why or what and of course it upset me, i had not changed, nothing had changed. I initially thought it was me and he just didn't love me anymore but after speaking to friends and putting the pieces together I realised it was his mental health that was struggling which was the reason for his low libido and disconnection. I moved out for a week, gave him space, looked after him, offered him support in anyway he wanted it. I literally have done and read absolutely everything I am even going to a psychologist for myself to talk it out and get supportive coping strategies, but I know at the end of the day if he does not want to get help than I cannot do anything, I ended up moving out which shocked him and killed me.... he has started making slow steps, he has a lot of past hurt that he has never fully dealt with from family issues to never having anyone to support him... the fact we have discussed a future I think that scares him because he thinks it will all go wrong and that he will have to face more family break up and pick up the pieces.. He's struggling to let go and move forward, he says he doesnt want to lose me. I am not sure what else to do??? Not sure how long I can hold on.

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Doolhof — Wed, 19 Sep 2018 00:52:41 GMT

Hi Speakforchange,

Mental health issues are very confusing for the person who is inflicted and for the people who are around them. It is wonderful you have been looking into depression, how to help yourself and your boyfriend.

One issue with depression, is that it can manifest itself differently in everyone. The material you are reading is helpful. Have you read information on how to assist a person experiencing depression>

The Beyondblue website has some information regarding this. If you have not already read about how to help others, it may be helpful.

As a person who has been experienced depression for a long time, I would jut like to point out there are different ways to assist people. A depressed person does not want to feel the way they do! We all wish we could flick a switch and be rid of the illness.

Hopefully with support and help, your boyfriend will be able to move on, and the two of you can form a lasting relationship.

Cheers to you both, from Dools

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Ell43 — Wed, 19 Sep 2018 01:17:39 GMT

Hey SpeakofChange,

Gosh you've had a pretty rotten time of it lately!
Firstly I'd probably suggest having a look in the "Relationship and family issues" section of these forums. There are lots of posts in there from people facing difficulties slightly similar to yours and you might find the advice thats been offered to them useful for you.

I know you didn't come on the forums looking for praise, but I just wanted to say I think you are doing an amazing job trying to cope with everything that has been going on in a really mature sensible way. Going to see a professional yourself shows really great insight into the things you can control, and is such a proactive step. Well done, you should be a little bit proud of yourself and how you're trying to manage a difficult situation.

A frustrating thing about life and relationships is that we can never control the other person or make them want to do something if they don't want to do it. If your partner doesn't want to address his mental health difficulties the only thing you can really do is be there for him and make sure you are looking after your own mental health (which it sounds like you are).

Perhaps you could talk to your psychologist about couples therapy options? It might be a conflict of interest for your psychologist to start couples therapy with you both, but they might be able to recommend somewhere for you guys to go? Couples therapy can be really helpful in providing a safe place for you to both express your concerns with each other, and have a independent third party there to help moderate the conversation and keep it productive. They might also be able to offer you guys some strategies to help with your partners anxiety/depression or help encourage your partner to seek further personal assistance for whats going on for him.
If he doesn't want to return to taking the medications thats ok, there are lots of other things he can do for his mental health that might mean you guys can continue your relationship in a health way.

I'm glad you feel like he has started taking slow steps. Maybe accessing professional help is the next step you can encourage him to take?

You sound like a really devoted partner SpeakofChange and like you're doing the best you can right now. Try to remember that's all you can do, and that your mental health and happiness is important too!

Ell

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Speakforchange — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 03:48:51 GMT

Hi Ell,

Thank you for your reply... I am doing the best I can and I am well informed thank you for acknowledging that.

He doesn't want to get help with me and I have offered that there for him individually or together for whenever he is ready. I know that he really wants to do this on his own though. He has now spoken to friends about it which is good and also has looked at going to a mental wellness retreat. We have decided to go on a break with no communication for a little while, but he knows I am there if he needs me. We both really want it to work out, but the scary thing is that he cannot promise me anything and feels bad letting me hang on...

I feel like eventually he has to meet me half way in some way or it is not going to work.. I do have to be patient and give it more time but it is hard to have no partner and be in limbo for an unidentified amount of time. I have good and bad days as anyone would but feel very sad about all of it because our relationship was before this seemingly perfect. I know I just have to be patient, because I am not ready to break up with him just yet. He said if he comes back to us being together he needs to have a firm plan and action so that it does not happen again. Which is a good thing from him to say. He also said he needs to be 100% between the ears before he can give 100% to me. I hope there is a break through sometime soon. I miss my partner so much and love him more than anything.

This is truly such a horrible illness.

Thank you for your support

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LeeA18 — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 04:22:17 GMT

Hi Ell

it is hard. Trust me. I ended up in a bad place because I was putting his needs and wants before my own. Take the time to find out who you are, what you want in a relationship and if this is what you want. Breaking up is hard to do but life can’t be put on hold either.

I loved my boyfriend, still do. But I recently got really hurt by him. Not saying this will happen to you but you should prepare yourself that he might not feel like he can be in a relationship for a while.

My sister told me that she thought my ex-boyfriend was doing the right thing. At first I didn’t think so but as time went on, I think she was right. A lot of time they don’t know how to be in a relationship during and simply can’t meet your needs and feel guilty for that.

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Speakforchange — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 09:18:20 GMT

Hi LeeA18's,

I agree with what you are saying and I am so sorry to hear your relationship ended but yes maybe it will be for the best. We are currently on a break, he does feel guilty for what he is doing to me, as he does not want be to be unhappy or just holding on, he feels like that is unfair because it has only been a month but he has acknowledged that he is unsure yet if he will have to do this himself or alone (not in a relationship) to be honest it has resurfaced due to the fact that hurt from past relationships not his own but family members that he has had to pick up the pieces from a divorce of his parents and still feel the ramifications of that he has a lot of past trauma that he hasnt faced and has gotten used to doing all things for himself, he says he doesnt want to lose me but yes i agree I cannot put my life on hold for too long, I have definitely been thinking about what it is that I want for myself and to be honest i was completely blind sided by all this because our actual relationship is so perfect, so at this point in time I am looking after myself to keep my head above water, exercising, eating healthy, socialising, speaking out and seeing a psychologist. I also at this point cannot break up with him for the pure reason of his past issues so for now i will give it some time, but i know eventually there has to be some shift.. and i do know there is a possibly it might not work out... it scares me and i also know i might have to eventually break up with him if this goes on for too long. Thank you for all your thoughts 🙂

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LeeA18 — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 09:38:40 GMT

I could have written what you wrote. My story is quite identical. I think you are doing all the right things. Keep us updated.

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Speakforchange — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:25:09 GMT

Hi LeeA18,
I hope you are okay post break up...
It is nice to talk to someone who can relate? Just a question how old are you? How old is your partner? I know age isn't really a big deal but just curious. I am 27 and my partner is about to turn 31. I am definitely doing absolutely everything I can, exhausting every allocation. I will let you know how this all develops. How long were you and your ex going out for and how long did you wait or did he wait to end things from when you found out what was going on?

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Speakforchange — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:25:40 GMT

Hi LeeA18,

I hope you are okay post break up...
It is nice to talk to someone who can relate? Just a question how old are you? How old is your partner? I know age isn't really a big deal but just curious. I am 27 and my partner is about to turn 31. I am definitely doing absolutely everything I can, exhausting every allocation. I will let you know how this all develops. How long were you and your ex going out for and how long did you wait or did he wait to end things from when you found out what was going on?

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LeeA18 — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:10:47 GMT

It’s hard. I find writing it all out helps me. It’s all I think about really.

I am 36, he was 32. Despite the age, he had more experience in relationships but were all bad. One in particular, which was dreadful when I heard it. Not surprised he is still dealing with anxiety/commitment issues from it.

we were together for a year. Were good friends for 6 months prior. Felt like we had been together for a lot longer. I Knew about his mental health prior to getting in a relationship with him but didn’t realise how deep it ran. It’s easier to be a friend, you can go home and live your life. When you are a partner, you feel responsible and try and help more.

he was quite open from when the anxiety/depression started again (well, when he told me. Not sure if he hid it for a little bit). He communicated well at first. A week later it was a different story. I could barely get a sentence out from him and all he could do was apologise for not being able to say anything and being quiet. So from start to finish was 3 weeks. We still spoke after that for about a month. There was a big improvement from the time it started to the last time I saw him. I haven’t heard much from him over the last month. Just random texts mainly. Stuff that he needs to let go. I don’t know where his headspace is right now. Being away from him has been good for me though as it just hurts.

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Speakforchange — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:25:57 GMT

I am so sorry it is such a terrible situation for both of us to be in. It truly is the worst in the world maybe even more so for the supportive partner because we don't actually have any issues to fix or that we can fix. I obviously still think about it everyday, we have decided for now to have a clean break and not to talk, I know he would never see anyone else or be in that headspace at all, that is not even what the break is about we haven't said how long it is either, i guess it will just be for me until i feel better to either slowly build upon the relationship and let it work until he feels like he has some form of action in place and then again I could get a slap in the face and he decide he says he wants to be alone. The worst thing is... I know deep down and he has admitted it, he really doesn't want to lose me he would be shattered it all stems now from the guilt of making me wait which is pushing me away and the subconscious pressure of me still technically being there in some entity that makes him feel potentially like he has to do something fast. His past relationships werent negative they just werent for him, it was family hurt and divorce that he had to pick up the pieces and deal with and i think it absolutely terrifies him that he would have to face something like that again. He has no one here where he lives in terms of family and not much support, I can see he is taking small steps. He did say he wants to be happy and he wants to be positive and he truly hopes it all works out.. so that is what I hold on for now..

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lost6 — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 02:43:54 GMT

Hi Speakforchange,

I’m so sorry to hear what you’re doing through. It is similar to my relationship with my ex-boyfriend. We split up just over 2 weeks ago so I’m feeling pretty sad still and basically just riding the rollercoaster of emotions. I was blindsided by my boyfriend who announced one afternoon that his mental health was going down hill. I had no idea how bad his mental health had gotten in the past. He only brought it up a few weeks before we broke up because he was getting extremely stressed about uni. I tried supporting him as much as I could but in the end it wasn’t enough. We had been together for just under a year and we’re planning on moving in together soon. He has asked me to not contact him and has convinced himself he needs to be alone to get through this. It’s incredibly tough because I loved him so much but I have acknowledged I need to take care of myself too.

i think the best thing you can do is also take care of yourself. Surround yourself with your close friends and don’t forget your self-worth. You deserve someone who will treat you the way you also treat them. I hope you’re going ok.

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LeeA18 — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 02:59:53 GMT

It’s amazing how similar our stories are. It’s also a comfort as well. I feel discarded as I always believed that, when in a relationship, you lean on each other for support and for good and hard times. I told this to my ex-boyfriend and he said that he knew that but he just felt like he needed space.

i have my next psych appointment in 1.5 weeks. I really need it. I am confused again.

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lost6 — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 04:14:24 GMT

Similar to SpeakforChange I thought my relationship was perfect. But I have realised that it was ‘too perfect’ now. For the year we were together we didn’t have one fight, we travelled overseas together and our parents had become friends. I did start to feel something was ‘off’ though in the last 2 weeks of the relationship because my partner became more quiet and said it was just exam stress. I tried so badly to get him to open up to me. The weekend before we broke up he told me I was his soul mate. Then he said like a ‘switch’ he realised his mental health was bad and needed to be alone to work on it. I am still heart broken but the best advice I’ve received is that partners are meant to build each other up. When we are at our lowest we’re meant to turn to each other, not decide to be alone. I completely understand metal health changes peoples thoughts but my breakup was done in such a horrible way that I have to look after myself for the time being. This is much easier said than done though. We have spoken a few times since the breakup and every time my heart re-breaks over the withdrawn and cold person he has become. I’m hoping that time will eventually start to make this better and the amount of emotions I go through everyday will start to get less.

I hope you’re taking care of yourself too. Anyone have any suggestions to try and get over the confusion of these breakups? I’ve read a lot of stuff about relationships and communication which is helping a bit

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LeeA18 — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 04:25:07 GMT

Yes! Mine seemed perfect too. No fights, was easy, carefree. I met some of his extended family 3 days before he spiralled. We were just about to move in with each other, which is what he blamed it on. Even my psych said that he can still be in a relationship when depressed and get support. The first thing my psych asked me when I told him was “why do you still want to be with him?” My response “I can’t let go.” That’s what it is like when they tell you they are breaking up with you because of a mental illness. There’s always a little bit of hope that they’ll get better and you’ll be together again. The thing is, someone might not come out of depression the same person they were before depression.

the thing is, there is no communication when this happens. I tried to get him to see reason for a couple of weeks. He always justified it. I always felt like I had to protect him because “he is going through depression at the moment.” That didn’t turn out well for my mental health either. Even our friends are confused. He led me on for a month afterwards as well. At the moment, I don’t trust anything he says or does. He seems erratic. I will post what I wrote on my post about something that happened.

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LeeA18 — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 04:33:04 GMT

The following is a huge reason why I am confused. I haven’t told him the whole story of what I know. I don’t know if I should now.

Update.
After a turbulent 2 months of hot and cold behaviour, yesterday was the final straw for me. His erratic behaviour is just confusing and I can’t trust him anymore.
on the day that we broke up, we went out for lunch. When we were driving, he sent a message to someone with a kiss and love heart. He saw that I saw and he said that it was to *male friends name* and they had been joking around the previous night telling each other that they loved each other. His brother noticed him smiling and asked who he was texting. I thought it was a bit odd why he would do this with another male friend and just figured that each friendship is different.
We got home and we were sitting on the couch. He broke up with me. I was sitting next to him when he leaned forward and opened his phone up. On it were 2 pics at the bottom of the screen with “his initials ❤️ Someone else’s initials” and “I love you”. These were created in a drawing app. I didn’t say anything. I didn’t for 2 months. Didn’t say a word to anybody. It ate me up. I noticed 3 days later that they were added to social media. So I figured out who the initials were for. I didn’t see much activity between them on social media though. Just 1 like and 1 tag in a meme.
fast forward and I finally asked him about what I saw in the car. He told me that it was nothing, honestly. Just his godfathers daughter going through a tough time.
Yep, so his story the first time didn’t match up to his story yesterday. I actually believe the story yesterday. Only the second bit. Whether it was nothing, I am not sure. I didn’t tell him what else I saw. I spoke to a couple of friends who said that I should. I keep protecting him and not wanting to upset him, for some reason. So I decided to write it all in a letter.
What annoys me is that he was a mess himself and jumped on her emotional rollercoaster to apparently help her. It was a time when he should have been communicating and leaning on me. A time that was crucial in our relationship to work out things but instead he pushed me away and ran. Now I think I know why.
so that’s me done.

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Speakforchange — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 02:01:08 GMT

Hi Lost6,

I am sorry it is truly heart breaking isn't it.

I just am getting by day to day at the moment, but do not have a lot of friends around at the moment as they are all overseas or have recently moved interstate. I am sorry your break up was horrible... and done in a not so nice or civil way. The thing is between me and my boyfriend we are still very much kind and considerate to each other and being quite logical about it all, well I am and hes also very conscious of what it is doing to me... the hardest part is at the end of the day if he does not want to let me be there in some capacity I will have to break up with him... as I am getting to the point where I am going to need human love and affection I have needs too and I cannot keep doing this to myself, being on a clean break hoping in the next few weeks he gets some clarity to allow us to move forward, it could really go either way at the moment. I know he truly loves me and wants to make it work but these demons that he cannot face and be subject to the vulnerability may be bigger than us and at the end of the day it may not allow us to make it through.

As far as things you can do, I think you said it yourself take time to do things you enjoy, see friends, eat well, exercise, write down things ( I know that helps me a lot ) and just take it day by day... the only thing that heals is time and as long as you putting the right things in place to get there you will be ok eventually, unfortunately we as human can't just shut off the emotions and automatically feel better.

Wishing you a nice weekend 🙂

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lost6 — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 04:34:17 GMT

Hi speakforchange

I decided to leave the city and spend the weekend at the beach. They say that the ocean and sun is good for the soul right?

I think that you and your partner are being very mature about this situation which is one silver lining. That fact you can both see the rational side of the situation, no matter how upsetting it is, will hopefully mean that you can make a joint decision about the relationship. I can imagine it is still incredibly heart breaking and I’m so sorry you’re going through this. But you’re right about yourself having needs that also need to be looked after. Make sure you don’t burn yourself out either.

Unfortunately like my relationship I think the complex mental health and emotional problems were too big for my love and support to really help him. I miss him an incredible amount and I just wish he had given me the opportunity for a discussion. I feel like there’s a battle in my head recently between the rational side that can see this relationship was never going to last the distance if only one person was opening up but the rest of me mourns for the amazing memories we had and the person I thought I was dating. Is that what you’re feeling too?

I hope your Monday is going ok!

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LeeA18 — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 07:27:13 GMT

Lost6

Your last paragraph is so true. It’s hard because your brain and heart fight each other. You can question yourself and him. It can literally drive you crazy.

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Speakforchange — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 12:02:49 GMT

Hi Lost6,

I ended it over the weekend it was horrible, what break up ends with a hug and a kiss. I collected all my furniture yesterday and he would have got home to a pretty bare apartment (but he said he wanted to do it alone) so there he is finally alone. I left the key on the counter.

In a way it was a tough love decision as I am hoping it will spur him along to get help if he really wants us to be together, me being there was comforting for him because even though I was not there he knew I was there in the background so he had that comfort as he knew he had not lost me. It was extremely difficult to end it.... It was something I didn't think I would have done already even though I kind of had a timeline in my head. I am off on a trip for a week with work to do some charity work internationally so it will be nice to give back and put my life into perspective a little and just disconnect.

I still love him.... I still haven't digested what I did.... I still hope he will come back to me and realise he has messed up.... we still love each other.... but he needs to deal with the underlying issues that has not allowed him to move into that next phase of his life... whichever way it goes.... I will either be free and heal sooner and find the person that deserves my love or he will come back and fight for us and we will be stronger but for now I cannot think of that just taking it all day by day.

I agree with what you said in your last paragraph, his mental health issues did become bigger than us and I could not compete with that and I said that to him... I said I love you.. but I also love me... and I cannot keep living like this... he was pretty shattered... but he does need this time to truly be alone... I have done everything that I can possibly do for him and he knows if he ever really does want to reach out to me in particular I would be there for him... I am completely heartbroken and saddened by this all but I am not sure, well I know there is nothing more I could do or have done in this situation I exhausted all avenues as well as myself and now I just need to be kind to me and put me first for a while!

I am glad you took some time to go away and do something for you xx