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Worried about other users - how are we all doing?

Chris_B — Mon, 25 Nov 2013 22:40:24 GMT

Hi everyone,

I thought I'd check in to see how everyone is doing; while the nature of these forums is as a place of support, and it feels good to help others, we need to make sure our own welfare is looked after too. Sometimes reading the experiences of others can be validating, because we feel 'we've been there', but sometimes it can also be a trigger for bringing up unpleasant feelings.

I've started this thread so we can have a constructive discussion about helping others and helping ourselves - how do you cope when you read about others in distress? Do you have a self-care plan in place, and if so, what is it?

Really looking forward to hearing from you all.

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Jo3 — Tue, 26 Nov 2013 02:31:02 GMT

Hi Chris,

I have fallen in a heap again. I was doing ok, or so I thought but maybe I was wrong. On the weekend I chatted on line with others and helped them deal with their stuff. but i now don't know why I'm feeling like the way i am. So damn weak, emotional and just not with it at all.

Self care plan - walk down the beach, listen to music, meditate (all of which I find extremely hard to do right now). Why is everything getting to me.

Sorry it's not much of a reply at all

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Chris D — Tue, 26 Nov 2013 03:00:32 GMT

Hi Chris and Jo,

Better than days before but still very much battling. Jo you are NOT weak it's the condition that is talking not you.

Self Care Plan - listen to music/radio, read book, sleep, watch funny dvd. All at the moment i have shut out because i'm just not up to it.

Chris

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Jo3 — Tue, 26 Nov 2013 07:16:41 GMT

Hi Chris,

Maybe being on here is a trigger - but it shouldn't because I am helping others; I'm supporting others because I know and understand what it's like to have depression, anxiety and BPD. But then if it is - what do I do - stop going on here. I don't think I could leave because I really need support and help from others as well as me helping others.

I don't know; I'm not really sure what to think.

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Euroatheboat — Tue, 26 Nov 2013 09:28:36 GMT

Hey, its funny that I am depressed and yet I am feeling much better that this place exists. Well done to you all for being part of a great thing. Troy

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geoff — Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:22:42 GMT

dear Christopher, this is a very thoughtful comment from you, but also a very valid point.

There are many people who indeed reply to others, but they are not well themselves, as they are struggling with their own aggravations, and their problems just stick to them, or they come and go, and the annoyance of this berates their living standards.

The excellence of this site is that when they offload their problems is that they begin to feel better only because they can talk to the people on here who have been through the same or very similar circumstances and who understand and can relate to those seeking help.

Nobody is perfect, and not everybody hits the point from those asking for help, but it's another avenue for them to consider. Geoff.

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Beetle — Wed, 27 Nov 2013 10:46:01 GMT

This side helps me a lot on the road to accept that i have depression and anxiety. I was only able to get on here after my meds had kicked in. Before It was too much. I could not have even read one post without crying and getting off the rails So i didint. I did call BB though. now i enjoy to reply to others and hope it may be helpful. I also found it very helpful to get feedback from people who went through similar stuff what makes me feel less " alien".Since im newly diagnosed i still dont know much but can at least share my story,

My safety plan is: if i feel some post is affecting me, i get offline and do somehting else and if its really bad i would call BB.

I feel pretty stable at the mo and think i would be able to protect myself from harm.The meds give me some protective shield so that I can think and reflect before I take action. that means the time to realise its the 'beast talking' is prolonged which is good 🙂

Great psot chris!

Beetle

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Guest_3712 — Mon, 03 Mar 2014 06:02:47 GMT

Hi Chris,

Appreciate the concern and follow up. I am feeling suitably chastised and apologise for the unintended furore surrounding my post.

How do I cope? I don't know . trying to offer some support for others diverts my thoughts from my own issues, not necessarily the best approach for my own mental health according to my psych, and probably to the professionals at BB

Yes I feel ,"I've been there" when I read some posts, and yes sometimes I feel so distressed I can't reply even if I wanted to. But then there are the times where I think, I believe I have something to offer and I'm going to put it out there.

When I started posting on BB the thing that really appealed to me was that I could say what was on my mind without fear of being ridiculed or challenged. I have no idea why I think I am in any way qualified to respond to others- obviously given the unrest I have caused I need to re-assess my involvement.

I'm not sure how I feel or what to do re the last few days, I don't feel I achieved anything and in fact I believe I may have caused more harm than good.

So as you have intimated maybe I need a 'time out'. Please except my apologies anyone I have upset.

Be kind to your selves

Stressless

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Chris_B — Mon, 03 Mar 2014 06:17:41 GMT

Hi Stressless,

I apologise if you feel chastised by my responses, that wasn't the intention at all. Just wanting to flag that among the many different triggers we all have for distress, sometimes the forums can be one of them. Sometimes it's just the opposite, and talking to others and helping can be a distraction from your own issues, or help you find a solution you hadn't thought of, and that's great too.

I started this thread so we could get some discussion going on what we do when the former happens, how does everyone manage themselves around triggers?

There's no need to apologise for expressing your feelings, sometimes it can be hard reading about other people doing it tough and being stuck behind a computer and unable to do more than write words. That doesn't mean for a second that any members should feel held back from talking or contributing about what's going on for them out of worry that you might upset others. That's what our moderators and community rules are here for, this is a non-judgmental space and is here for everyone to use in addition to other supports and services.

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Jo3 — Mon, 03 Mar 2014 09:58:54 GMT

Hi Chris,

I agree with what you're saying to Stressless. I do have a coping plan prepared by myself and my psych.

It is so easy to get caught up with another member's message especially if it is upsetting or someone crying out for help. Because we all want to help each other.

I know members on here wanted to help me & Mares over the weekend. I felt very humble by all the responses we received. It is so nice to know there are so many beautiful caring people on here that want to help.

But I understand that BB can only do so much to help us.

Thank you for your continued support, and a fantastic forum BB has created for us members.

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scorch — Wed, 05 Mar 2014 03:13:38 GMT

Hi Chris

Beyond Blue helps me to know I'm not alone, and it helps to put my feelings in perspective. Knowing that other people struggle with the same things I do makes me feel like I'm not such a freak. Makes me feel like it's not my fault, I suffer from an illness - I'm not just some weirdo who can't cope. I don't have to pretend to have it all together here... I can just be me.

I do not get triggered by reading about other distress because I figure if they are going through something I would rather know about it and try to support them in some way rather than have them feel like they need to suffer alone. Of course I feel concern for their wellbeing, and sometimes what is written can be upsetting, but again... I'd rather they post on the forum and let people know that they are struggling than not be allowed to share those feelings/what's going on.

I love that BB forums edits our posts if they are getting too explicit or give too many details - that is really good, because it can be easy to go too far. So the edits are a good way to make sure nothing too triggering gets through... But sometimes I feel that we are sometimes too restricted with how much we can share, and therefore don't get a reply that fully addresses our topic/problem/feeling. I received an 'edit' notice recently and I have no idea what I said that stepped over a line, so I hope I don't do it again.

This is slightly off topic, but it is connected. Sorry if it should go somewhere else. But seeing as we are being totally honest, I have to say it doesn't feel very nice seeing an email from you guys in my inbox. I feel like 'I'm so stupid, I screwed up - why do I bother' when all I am trying to do is help people. It's like I've done something wrong even though I've tried to do the right thing and stick to the rules. (Although, I received one today and completely understand why you didn't let it go through. I'm talking about a different email) I know you guys are only looking out for everyone, but so far getting those couple of emails has been the only triggering thing for me, and that's because they played on my lack of self esteem and feelings of worthlessness that lurk at the back of my mind.

It's a difficult balance and I imagine we all give you moderators a heck of a headache some times. But all in all, I think we all appreciate this place and the opportunity it gives us to communicate with people who understand.

I know I am in a better place now than I was when I signed up last year and that is thanks to this community. So thank you Chris and the other moderators for all the hard work you do here to help us out. 🙂

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Jo3 — Wed, 05 Mar 2014 03:48:52 GMT

Well said Scorch

I00% agree with you.

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cancerianmoon — Wed, 05 Mar 2014 21:41:26 GMT

Dear Christopher,

Thank you for asking how we're doing!

I feel more alone and without hope than ever. I'm new here and posted an intro a few days ago. Others' stories are helpful in reminding me I'm not the only one feeling this way and there are others who are doing it much tougher. BUT, it doesn't help ease my pain. I will keep posting when I need to, as even if I don't get replies I am unloading. I also get a sense of connection, which is pretty important as I live in a small, rural community.

Warm regards,

Cancerianmoon

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Quercus — Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:22:39 GMT

Hey Chris,

Swear this thread wasn't prominent before! This is a great idea!

I think we all get overwhelmed. It's part of feeling empathy for others. We care. The hardest part I've found is knowing when I need to walk away for a while. Sometimes things hit a bit too close to home.

Other times it is upsetting to be anonymous and not able to give practical help when someone is at risk. I'm learning to recognise my limits and take things slowly. And as White Rose told me once the best thing about the forums is we all help when we can. So you can't help everyone and that's ok. You give what you can 😊.

I also limit the amount of new people I post to at one time. There will always be people who post once and never again but if I respond to too many and everyone replies (along with the regulars I like to talk to) I get overwhelmed.

And last of all... I don't go into certain sections if I suspect they will be too much. I once had another member write to me and just could not make myself open her thread because I suspected it would be too much. I felt guilty. But now I recognise that is absolutely ok. We have to protect ourselves sometimes.

I hope others write here too this is an important topic. Thanks Chris.

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demonblaster — Tue, 27 Jun 2017 09:31:56 GMT

Thanks Chris Hi all 🙂

I can relate to some issues here but no it doesn't trigger.

I want to help people as many do help get em up caring yes but trying not to take it on board

It's been rough for a few wks more down than up, still trying to pull through but better thanks. Facing demons hard but gotta be done
Been deadly tired but getting there

How bout you

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Guest_128 — Tue, 27 Jun 2017 09:41:42 GMT

Hi Quercus and Chris,

I just want to say thanks for this thread,it just helped me to read.

Later

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demonblaster — Wed, 28 Jun 2017 03:40:13 GMT

Just need to talk for a bit
Feel like I've caught up on sleep finally but can't shake this depression, I will but so sick of crying & feeling sad, I can't be like this cause when the next BP comes it'll compound, hard enough anyway

Might go for a walk in a tic when I can get these tears under control.

Thanks again for this Chris

Hope you're doing ok 🙂

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Chris_B — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 06:12:48 GMT

Great to see everyone is having a think about taking care of themselves while using the forums.

Just reviving this thread on a related topic - what happens when we see a thread where the member is yet to receive a reply, or we don't think the replies they have are adequate?

Getting invested in the journeys of others here can sometimes lead to a sense of panic if we feel that someone is not being helped within a certain timeframe.

There's a couple of points important to remember here on the forums:

1. No-one here is obligated to take part in any discussion. The purpose of this space is to share stories with one another and take part in a conversation as peers, as equals. While many people say they find the forums helpful, the forums are not a helpline. Most posts will get a reply the same day, but this is not guaranteed. If you read a post that concerns you in the sense that you think the person may be at imminent risk of harming themselves or someone else, then please report the post to moderators and we'll take a look at it (although it's 99.9% likely we've already seen it). That said, if you're still worried, you can always...

2. Light the candle - there's a Sara Henderson quote, 'don't wait for the light to appear at the end of the tunnel, stride down there and light the bloody thing yourself!'. I've recently seen our community champions referred to affectionately as 'big guns' and 'heavyweights' by some members. But everyone posting here is a big gun and a heavyweight! You all have unique life experiences and expertise to share. If you see a post that hasn't had a reply, jump in there and say hello. You're not expected to solve anyone's problems, our champions included. Think about the first time you posted here on the forums and how it felt to be acknowledged. Sometimes you won't feel you have anything to contribute to a discussion, and that's absolutely fine. But it only takes a sentence or two to say, "I'm listening and I heard you." Tell the person how their post made you feel and how you hope things will get better for them.

Does anyone else have suggestions on this?

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Fiasco — Tue, 18 Jul 2017 02:46:56 GMT

Thanks Chris,

I like what you've written and appreciate it. 😄

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jonjr — Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:05:43 GMT

Hi chris

Firstly nice post.. my opinion at times are that the moderators can be a bit snappy with there moderating so to speak. Alot of times if the subject doesnt fit or is seen as to far its thrown out.....there are varies kinds of illness and degrees of severity. I myself can be very confronting or muddled up. I would like to see those type of posts forwarded or looked at more closely. At times a better reply with a opportunity to seek help or talk to some one could mean a whole lot more than you know.