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Caring for your 'well' partner

white knight — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:50:47 GMT

Sounds basic but I hope my comments here dont step on any feelings. The objective is to help and honesty should not be compromised.

Severe mental illness can be so debilitating that the sufferer needs 100% care from their partner often at times to the point whereby the ill can resemble an emotional "sponge". Absorbing every comment their ears come across. Being sensitive to every comment and often they are 100% absorbed within themselves ...to just survive, just to keep living. What effect must this have on their partner?

Family and friends not living with the ill have constant respite. They can even distance themselves at will. IF they are not feeling 100% themselves then they can cut contact for a few days and "go shopping" ? They have the choice of space. Not so the partner. I can picture it now. The partner leaves in the morning for work at 7am, trundles through bus and trains to the city to work in a big city office, tolerates all the gossip and infighting there then trundles home again. Finally gets home at 7pm knowing all along his battles for the day are only just beginning. He/she walks in the door, no hug, he/she asks how was your day and is met with glassy eyes and no reply. Finally after making a drink his/her partner finally talks and out comes the same comments about the past that the worker has heard all too often before.

It's a sad story and many carers/partners endure this sad sad life. Of course I am not levelling fault here in any way. That is what is sad about it....there is no fault !!.

In the case above let us presume you are the one with the depressive illness. What to do to avoid a very unhappy partner that ultimately is caring for you every day? They need care to. They need you.

Here are my suggestions (easiest to most difficult) for you to try with all your might, to implement on a regular daily practice:

1/ Greet. If you can walk to the toilet when in need then you can walk to the door to greet your partner. You dont have to talk, just hug.

2/ Ask how was their day? For that one answer focus and listen.

3/ When your partner asks you how you are going be honest and clear. If you are consumed by the past or your hurt that he/she has heard so many times before then a comment like "I went back there again today so am not feeling ok" is better.

4/ Plan a small evening event. eg Ask your partner what TV show they would like to watch

Providing as normal a home life as possible can be your greatest gift to your carer helping them to keep caring

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JessF — Fri, 19 Sep 2014 00:02:11 GMT

You know, I ruined a marriage but not doing these things. I was particularly bad at number 2 - I never asked, and I would often find myself drifting off when he answered. Depression can be such a selfish illness, and you're right, we don't think about the impact it has on our partners.

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white knight — Fri, 19 Sep 2014 02:12:25 GMT

Hi JessF,

Sorry to hear that. Writing such a thread is guess work. I dont know either way if my thread is on track or not. Your reply is most welcomed.

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HA1 — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:29:45 GMT

PART 1:

Today I noted (realised) that my carer appeared tired and (from my ill perspective) disinterested in my talking about my illness. I am sure that was not the case, but it got me thinking. Thinking about how hard it must be to put up with me and my baggage; “you are here, yet you are not here – where are you?”; having to be dragged out of my sanctuary if she wants to go out to lunch or dinner, or heaven forbid a social function, her having to watch this ill person shuffle around in a daze, etc, etc. I asked myself, how can I make things easier for my carer, and thus also make life as ‘normal’ as possible. Then I remembered that I had seen a thread on this forum on something similar – and found it! Thanks for raising this issue WK. I agree with you that it is a very difficult question to discuss in a way that will gather a consistent response because, for one, everyone is different, with different circumstances – yet we are all distinctly similar in our ‘symptoms’. I think it is a case of throwing some ideas around (as you have done) and hope that someone can take something away to make things easier for them and their carer. My input follows in PART 2 of this post.

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HA1 — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:40:33 GMT

PART 2:

So here is my input:

1. Talk to your carer. Talk to them about issues other than your illness. Try and remember what things interest them and dive in. Your carer will understand that you are making an effort – for it will come as a complete surprise the first time! After a while it does become easier. Have I done as I preach? Hmm, a little bit. I have always been a quiet one, but working hard on joining in.

2. If your carer is your partner, do things together, even little things. Go for walks in quiet/serene areas and take in whatever is happening now. Make things you see a conversation – awkward at first, but after a while it, again, gets easier. This is one thing that I have managed to do well so far. If you do even little things together it is a form a communication. And that is so important for your carer.

3. Recall the recent “R U OK” day? [Speaking of which, sadly no one asked me that on the day – I ended up calling family members and asking (innocently) R U Ok … “yes I’m fine, why? Was typically the response”, haha] Your carer is constantly worried about you, watching over you and wondering. Do the same for your carer. A simple R U Ok once a day is easy. I have taken to doing that and its nice – but be prepared to listen.

4. Try and go away together. Any small getaway from the normal day to day routine is good for both the ill and the carer. We now go for a daily walk, or a drive quite frequently, together.

5. Make sure your carer, has a break from you as frequently as you are able to make it so. I encourage my carer to leave the house and catch up with girlfriends, just for the day, or for a few days; or alternatively sometimes I will jump in my car and go away for a few days to the countryside and stay with siblings or parents. The beauty with this sort of arrangement, for me is that I can have those oh so important quiet moments just to myself to re-charge my batteries. Bliss!!!

6. As one who suffers social anxiety in a big way, I find it hard (impossible) to enjoy social gatherings. But my carer is a social butterfly, so I have started trying in small doses. Makes me happy to see her happy when I am talking to others.

These are some of the things that I am doing, or trying to do, and I hope it works even a little. I am still working on doing something that will take that look of worry from my carers face when she says “you are here, but not here”. Have not yet found the magic little something .

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white knight — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 13:57:25 GMT

Hi AOK,

Nothing pleases me more than the feedback you've given. You've benefitted by putting ideas into place and you've refined it.

Yes, our carers may well be ok but it doesnt matter, its the thought of asking that counts.

Great. You've made my day!

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Little_Rascal — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 19:33:30 GMT

Thanks for this post 🙂 I am plagued by guilt every day because of this!!! And AOK you're a legend, im sure your girl appreciates the effort you make 🙂

I make a huge effort to make my fella feel appreciated, and since the diagnosis he doesn't seem so confused and personally offended by my reactions. I lash out at him a bit because I am constantly angry, he pulls me up and tells me im taking my head issues out on him, then tries to calm me by suggesting I go cuddle the ferrets or go to the gym or call a gf. But, he's adopted, and plagued by all the abandonment issues I suppose that come with it, so when we fight or he reacts to me over reacting, he feels like he should never have existed. He's mentioned this 3 times in our 2.5 year relationship, and about 2 weeks ago I had a bad day and snapped at him for not going to the butchers to get dinner after I had spent the whole day cleaning preparing for the week. He retracted and just asked for me not to keep asking of he was ok because I had my own stuff to deal with, i told him just I because I can't handle my own head doesn't mean I can't be there for him, he refused to talk, his eyes were glasst like he was about to cry for the next few hours, I couldn't say I love you because I could see it caused him more pain, and it was hard forbhim to reply, I couldn't even touch him, my heart broke so I went and cried out n the shower. He hated that his mood made me feel bad, but I hated that my actions and fight feed his feelings of ruining everyone's lives

He's often asked if he should leave me as he feels he triggers my bad moods, not the case! Just living and having a business together means he sees the worst, and I have no chance to fall apart in private.

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geoff — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 20:19:15 GMT

dear Tony (WK), some good replies to add to your fascinating post.

i was going to say that my situation was different, maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but I dreaded the thought of my 2 sons and my wife (ex) coming home, I loved them all, but it meant that I had to put on my mask, always trying to pretend that there was nothing wrong, like hell there wasn't, I was so depressed, no different than all of you, I just wanted to be by myself, day and night, because I needed the grog, which I had to hide.

I tried to get involved in the boys football training at home, just by teaching them to kick with their 'off' leg, which was their left foot pretending that I was enjoying myself.

I had to cook the dinner which I didn't really mind doing, because the boys were off doing their own thing, and the ex was at work, so I could drink, and that's why I was called an alcoholic, or labelled as such.

Eventually it got to the point were I wasn't looking forward for my wife going home, because she was always trying to get me to do things, which I didn't want to do because I had no strength, no enjoyment what's so ever.

On the weekends I was asked to go with them to the AFL footy, but I just wanted to be by myself, or somewhere else, but this meant that I couldn't drink, and if by chance I did go, (early in my depression) I was told that I didn't need to have a drink, which meant that my anxiety level increased.

When she moved into the other room to sleep, I tried once again to put on my mask, but it didn't work, so down hill all the way. Geoff.

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Little_Rascal — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 01:41:33 GMT

I'm so sorry to hear that Geoff, I hope things have gotten a little easier. Because I'm young its a bit easier to brush off my drinking habits, but I understand where you're coming from.

I get so worried when the day comes were "ready to have kids I feel I will be a terrible parent because of my mood swings and irritability

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white knight — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:42:39 GMT

Hi Geoff,

As they say "life is full of regrets". As we, the mentally ill, can attest, we live and have lived at extremes of behaviour. There is no fault. We have done our best. And we have sought treatment. But our extreme acts have ground in some guilt. It isnt easy overcoming that aspect of our thinking.

Feral Cas, you will never have that feeling of being "ready" for children. But garanteed, it comes to you naturally. Worry is non productive. Let nature do some of the hard yards.

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HA1 — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:11:51 GMT

Hello Geoff

WK noted that the ground-in guilt we feel is not easy to overcome. Sadly that will be so. I have read and re-read your post so many times now - it resonated so loudly with me - I can feel the pain and guilt in your post as if it was mine.

Please, as you yourself have countless of times reminded others on this forum, try and take some comfort in knowing that you are not alone with these feelings. You know this better than most on here.

Hoping that you are OK,

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geoff — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:33:33 GMT

dear All, in earlier posts that there were so many problems that I could never solve or have a rational talk even now with my ex about how I was feeling back then, so this was a one package that I packed up, put in a box sealed it and send it a drift to the Bermuda Triangle.

It doesn't matter how I felt then because my life has changed, I only drink socially now, and I am able to end the conversation when I need to.

I suppose I stay in contact with her because of our grand children, plus there are times when we have a laugh.

I will never be able to change her, and don't want to anyway. Geoff.

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LML — Sat, 27 Sep 2014 09:40:32 GMT

Thank you WK, its easier knowing I'm not the only one this is happening to, I have been accusing my newly diagnosed hubby of being rude & cruel, looks as tho I will have to adjust my expectations for a while. Now I feel mean for telling him its like pouring unconditional love into a black hole (eek).

Looks a tho we may be up for a 30 year journey & he hasn't even been medicated for 6 weeks yet (first medication too!)

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white knight — Sun, 28 Sep 2014 02:00:14 GMT

Hi LML,

Dont worry. I always believe that once carers tak a baby step they are on the way to being a great supprter of their cared one. Going on here and reading threads is your first step.

Reading = understanding. Understanding = acceptance. Acceptance leads to harmony and harmony trickles to happiness.

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HA1 — Sun, 28 Sep 2014 02:10:00 GMT

Nicely put WK.

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HA1 — Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:46:18 GMT

Yesterday was not a good day; for me nor my partner/carer. She had seen my mood start swinging south and that I was starting to withdraw again.

Yesterday was the first time she has broken down and cried for a very long time - she had been so strong. I thought my strategy had been working - but obviously not. It is clear that my illness is starting to bear down on her too. Last night she lamented that I was no longer the man she had married, that I was no longer 'here', that she no longer knew me. Not said in an angry way, but very sad way. That hurt.

I have told her that she needs to start actively looking after herself, maybe join a careers support group. Maybe talk to a psychologist.

Today I will take her out for the day, to wander around the shops, have lunch, and walk around some more. Hope this helps her now, but the future ....

take care

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white knight — Mon, 29 Sep 2014 00:05:51 GMT

Hi AOK,

This was the reason for the thread. Even when we dont think much about our carers tolerance...it can be building up then explode. Then we are in damage control and we feel like our our personal struggles have to be on the backburner...just like our carers are always on the backburner.

Yes, a bit of pampering wont do any harm. Bare in mind of course that things said in the heat of the moment are often not the accurate way its meant. None of us are the person we married. We change. It might not mean that she doesnt love you.

All the best AOK.

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tam40 — Mon, 29 Sep 2014 00:51:51 GMT

I am glad someone said this. I just wanted to say that I know what it feels like to do everything for partner and his family and not be well myself. I just had a baby 5 months ago. Moved out of rental home into his parents. Out in the middle of nowhere. I was diagnosed with postnatal depression 2 months ago. Not that they care I still have to do all the cooking cleaning and food shopping as well as looking after my baby. I finally cracked last weekend when my partner s 13 year old said she hates me and I am a bad person and bad mother .She wants to see my baby her half brother but not have anything to do with me. My partner s mother is very critical and quite verbally abusive at times I want to move but my partner does not.

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white knight — Mon, 29 Sep 2014 03:00:28 GMT

Hi Tam,

So the first thing that pops into my head is - is your partner having a defacto relationship with your family or you?

My younger sister (now 53) when she was 19 her new husband and her stayed with our parents in their home- didnt work out. My opinion is- it rarely does.

So now you'd feel ostracised. I cant tell you what to do but there are half way houses you can take your child, and maybe something like that will wake him up. Or a friends house for a while. Be careful. Without knowing all the details if you let it known you are planning to move out, the family could turn on you and try to keep your baby. If you want to move out then do it without warning IMO.

Wonder if your in-laws would help you out doing the chores if you had a broken leg?

Onto your step daughter. My kids were 9 and 6 yo when I met a lady. The kids and her didnt hit it off and I thought it would pass in time. Nope, 10 years later we separated this reason. Your step daughter doesnt know what qualifies makes a good mother so her opinion isnt relevant. She is entitled to not like you but beyond that she shouldnt force issues.

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HA1 — Mon, 29 Sep 2014 10:19:50 GMT

WK - thanks for the well wishes.

Well, today was partner/carer day in our household. Left the house early this morning and spent the whole day away doing simple things like strolling through shops and eating all day. (Me being patient waiting outside ladies wear shops will partner took her time, and her time ...) Nice. Being out all day meant no chance for me to mope around, lie in bed to late morning, etc.

Came back home she went to gym (pity her boxing partner!), while I cooked dinner. It made a difference. Must start making partner/carer day a regular event.

A good day all around.

Take care