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    <title>topic Theory, practice and insight in Staying well</title>
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    <description>I think we also need to be aware of our limitations NOW. We may still be working on things And hoping to improve but that can take time. In the meantime having strategies to deal with the problems that arise because of our current imperfections. For example when I'm really tired, stressed, frustrated etc I can blow up over even a lttle things. Trying to keep a lid on my feelings just makes it worse so the outburst is more damaging. I hope one day I will develop more patience, self control etc but in the meantime I need to manage the problem. In the past my husband would get very upset &amp;amp; then over-react following my outburst which then made things much worse. After discussion including joint sessions with my psychologist he now understands that sometimes I need to let off stream when things are bad &amp;amp; this does not reflect on him it is just the situation/ stresses etc getting to me causing the problem. I try to warn him that I am upset &amp;amp; let him know that I am not upset with him. This has made a big difference because he now understands what is happening &amp;amp; doesn't tke it personally &amp;amp; react. Hopefully one day I will overcome my problem but in the meantime this strategy is helping us manage it effectively.</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2016 11:18:43 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Elizabeth CP</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-12-26T11:18:43Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/staying-well/theory-practice-and-insight/m-p/207628#M22868</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;A couple of years ago I sought my 10 visits under a care plan. I attended a psychologist.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;At the end of the sessions she told me her thoughts. "You are one of the lucky ones Tony, you have insight into you illnesses, and you know the theory, your challenge is putting it all into practice. You need to put a lid on your emotions and think more before you react."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Back to that in a moment. My wife of 5 years has dyslexia, I've known her 30 years now. When she can't spell a word she asks me. I spell the word without her feeling inadequate. When young she was ridiculed and labelled "dumb". But being dyslexic has little to do with intelligence. She reads books, does our finances, plans holidays and so on. She just has a hard time spelling and with arithmetic.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So the connection I see here is that &lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;humans have abilities and inabilities. We have areas where we don't perform to a level we want to be at. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;Geniuses can have vision or thoughts well beyond 99.9% of the population but some can't put oil in their car, pump up tyres or test a battery. Churchill defended the world from Hitler but he couldn't shake the " black dog". &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;So back to "putting theory into practice." I've been trying really hard to ...count to ten before I raise my voice at confronting people, be more patient with others. Seek time out when the bipolar mood arrives etc. But I'm now of the opinion that I have found my limits and therefore found my inabilities, identified both ends of my capabilities and what's important, I've come to terms with this knowledge. I've found peace in this process.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;Isnt that significant? Sure is. To me it signals that my incapacity to act on the symptoms of my illnesses actually proved they are indeed serious medical conditions and that means there is darn good reason not to be able to overcome.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;Such inability is in my opinion equal to other peoples barriers like dyslexia, socially inept, addicts of many fixes, speech impediment and so on.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The key is giving it your best effort, then accepting that all humans are imperfect. Focussing on what you do well and accepting what you are incapable of doing well as being OK.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The sheer weight on your shoulders of mental illness often leads to low self esteem and withdrawal. Stand proud that you try.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There is no better feeling when at the end if the tunnel that you've accepted who you are.... Worts and all.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Do you have difficulty putting theory into practice? Do you have insight into your illness?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Tony WK&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2016 06:21:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>white knight</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Great post Tony.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Personally I have never had the patience to count to ten, so what I do is&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
    &lt;LI&gt;completely exhale&lt;/LI&gt;
    &lt;LI&gt;inhale&lt;/LI&gt;
    &lt;LI&gt;speak&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I find that completely exhaling​ &lt;EM&gt;first&lt;/EM&gt; ensures that I have sufficient time to not burst out in flaring red anger. Also, in order to say whatever is on my mind, I need to inhale before I can do so; and that inhalation is more time to think before reacting.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I also agree with your sentiments of: F&lt;EM&gt;ocusing on what you do well and accepting what you are incapable of doing well as being OK&lt;/EM&gt;. Its very similar to my version that I preach to my kids: &lt;EM&gt;influence change in that which you can, and learn to peacefully tolerate that which you cannot.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For me, peacefully tolerate means that the other person is completely unaware that you totally disagree with their behaviours and are merely tolerating them.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SB&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2016 10:04:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>Dear Tony~&lt;BR /&gt;
Your philosophy strikes me as eminently sensible. I think it is only realistic to recognize there are limits to improvements to major long-standing illnesses and that when a certain level is reached the increments, if any, get smaller and smaller (log scale?)&lt;BR /&gt;
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I was first diagnosed with stress-related disorders in the 70’s and declared TPI in the 80’s. From then on things first went down, and since that lowest point have improved, partly by medications, therapies, amazing family support, time and partly by learning to fill my life, accommodate my shortfalls and to avoid triggers.  I’ve come to know my limits – mostly. (This reminds me of your other recent thread&lt;EM&gt; Fortress…&lt;/EM&gt;) &lt;BR /&gt;
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It’s not a done deal, I’m still learning and changing, but I’ve accepted I’m not the person who started out. It doesn’t mean I’ve given up all hope of further improvement – for example the meds I’ve been on for the last 2 years have really improved things and came out of the blue - but it does mean accepting.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I now mostly know my strengths, I'm pretty sure I can live though the symptoms, I hopefully know when my judgment is likely to be affected (doesn’t mean I make the right decisions though:(  &lt;BR /&gt;
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While not as care-free as before my injury, and with no ‘endless horizons’ ahead of me, life still has much.&lt;BR /&gt;
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My best wishes&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Croix</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2016 04:02:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Croix</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Criox&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks, you are doing a lot of reading.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There was a time I had not accepted my mental illnesses. I could accept my physical ones, DVT, gout, ulcers and the likes. They had visible symptoms or effects.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This is a poem I wrote at that time.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;LEGS OF SPOKE&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;How can I let them know?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;When the dark exceeds the glow&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;When the sun hides behind the clouds&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Silence they hear...but I scream so loud.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Some stand beside a 6 foot hole&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Shake their heads and see its toll&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;They ask how he could have dropped&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Out of the circle -a forget me knot&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Yet they seem to see clear and there is hope&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;When they sight a person with legs of spoke&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;A crippled girl pushing her chair&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;A man be manic- there's no one there.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;"Storm in a tea cup" hurts so bad&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Like the cyber crow who remains so glad&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Keeps flying and in full flight&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Achieves his art...in the middle of the night&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;For some in power see it their way&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Even at the side of a 6 foot grave&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Shake their head and call out "why"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;"Why on earth- he didnt have to die".&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;So kind some be they reach out so true&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Smile away "we want to meet you"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Bring along your vintage car and your smile"&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;But leave - what's behind your dial.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;So we laugh and dine and all's ok&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Leave at home come what may&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;If I be saddled with legs of spoke&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;They'd lift me around- bloody good bloke.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;But as my mind hurts so bad&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Cannot hide my feelings- mad?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Can no longer be bloody good bloke&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Sometimes I wish.....&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;                                 I had legs of spoke......&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt; Tony WK&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Cont&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2016 04:53:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>white knight</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;So you can see, I was at the same point most of us are in the infancy of diagnosis. Then there was a turn. I began to "fight back". Here was the result and quite a contrast&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;SOCIETY OF SAND &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; I’m sitting in a desert&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Upon sand of friend and foe&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Can’t find a piece of turf&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Where I cannot stand on toes&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; I collect a handful of grain&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Then watch as it escapes&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Just like some friendships&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A barren temporary landscape &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I create my own oasis&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;By weeping on a weed&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But the sand around me laughs&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Cause it doesn’t have a need &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; Till lately it be the friends&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That helped me walk the land&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;They holding me up under my feet&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-supportive grains of sand&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; I begin to sink so slowly&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As they gather my precious hide&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The quick sand laughing so loud&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A kind man says goodbye&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; And as I become one of ‘them’&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My heart now granuled and dry&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I try to weep to water the weed&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But sand has no means to cry &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Damn it! I struggle so&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Be damned if I be like them&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I crawl out of the society of sand&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;To remain the man I am…&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So perhaps it is common for us all to go through the processes from realization of an illness, initial treatment and acceptance. That our journey didn't have in it the intention of such illnesses, the default was we'd go through life without them. Like many things, it happened to others not me.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Tony WK (hope the poetry didn't bore you lol)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2016 05:02:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>white knight</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you Tony&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;C&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2016 07:37:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Croix</dc:creator>
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      <description>I think we also need to be aware of our limitations NOW. We may still be working on things And hoping to improve but that can take time. In the meantime having strategies to deal with the problems that arise because of our current imperfections. For example when I'm really tired, stressed, frustrated etc I can blow up over even a lttle things. Trying to keep a lid on my feelings just makes it worse so the outburst is more damaging. I hope one day I will develop more patience, self control etc but in the meantime I need to manage the problem. In the past my husband would get very upset &amp;amp; then over-react following my outburst which then made things much worse. After discussion including joint sessions with my psychologist he now understands that sometimes I need to let off stream when things are bad &amp;amp; this does not reflect on him it is just the situation/ stresses etc getting to me causing the problem. I try to warn him that I am upset &amp;amp; let him know that I am not upset with him. This has made a big difference because he now understands what is happening &amp;amp; doesn't tke it personally &amp;amp; react. Hopefully one day I will overcome my problem but in the meantime this strategy is helping us manage it effectively.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2016 11:18:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Elizabeth CP</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear Elizabeth CP&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for pointing out we are all works in progress - no matter at what stage and the importance of accepting and dealing with the now.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You example really resonates with me. My wife first blamed herself, then started to respond by doubting my love. Eventually we both came to understand what was happening and things improved immeasurably.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you for that, I hope each day you achieve more and more in the fight I understand so well&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Croix&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2016 13:17:00 GMT</pubDate>
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