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    <title>topic ITS HARD TO REACH OUT FOR HELP and ITS HARD TO TRUST AND DISCLOSE in Staying well</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Rosemary, you title to this thread says it all. Your story makes my problems seem so minute compared to yours, I just finished crying my eyes out over the wonderful responses I received to my first post, but reading your story has just blown me away. Your courage,&amp;nbsp; stamina and willpower, just to keep trying after all the horrific things that have occurred in your life is nothing short of amazing.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I take my hat off to you, and your story has certainly inspired me to keep going as I have nowhere near the problems that you have had to face.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you for sharing your story Rosemary, and keep fighting.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:04:11 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Rbjustme</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-09-11T07:04:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>ITS HARD TO REACH OUT FOR HELP and ITS HARD TO TRUST AND DISCLOSE</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/staying-well/its-hard-to-reach-out-for-help-and-its-hard-to-trust-and/m-p/94258#M10042</link>
      <description>&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;ITS HARD TO REACH OUT FOR HELP
and ITS HARD TO TRUST AND DISCLOSE&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-variant: small-caps; background-color: aqua; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt; color: #0070c0;"&gt;This is my story: &amp;nbsp;in the hope of helping people to understand,
lessening the stigma, reducing the shame.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-variant: small-caps; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt; color: #0070c0;"&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I suffered depression as a teenager but I couldn’t talk to my parents.
They just didn’t talk. I suffered child abuse, though I didn’t understand it till
years later. I blocked it out.&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;When I left home I went to South Africa, which I loved; but while visiting
Cape Town I was nearly strangled and raped, and when I screamed for help the
hotel manager told &lt;EM&gt;me&lt;/EM&gt; to leave. I
tried to take my life whilst in South Africa and was too weak to return to work
for some time. The doctor was kind; however there was no follow-up. Not long
afterward while my husband, a chef (then my boyfriend), was at work I witnessed
his mother climb over the balcony of her 8&lt;SUP&gt;th&lt;/SUP&gt; storey unit.&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Back in England after our marriage, I again suffered dreadful depression
but didn’t see a doctor because I knew nothing about postnatal or any
depression. My son of 5 months developed meningitis and I would have lost him
but for a good doctor and a professor at the hospital (young doctors suggested
treating him for oncoming mumps).&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;We came to Australia and again I attempted to kill myself (I remember
saying sorry to God) and I was out of my body looking at dreadful creatures
trying to pull me down into hell; I can never forget that. The doctor
(presumably the one who resuscitated me) was really nasty to me; again I had no
support.&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I was still extremely depressed but didn’t know why. My husband was an
alcoholic and became violent and I became scared. One day at a railway station about
4pm after work I was attacked from behind by three youths. I was in shock,
crying, bleeding, with torn clothes; but no one spoke to me. I remember
thinking people on a previous train and people in a large building must have
seen it but no one offered help. I was working at the YMCA and detectives
worked hard to find the youths. When I returned to work, being pressured by my
superior, I wondered every time youths came in, if it was them and spent many
months looking over my shoulder whenever I heard voices.&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Around that time my son, who was previously so loving, got into drugs and
breaking and entering; even my neighbours’ homes. It was a dreadful time lasting
about four years.&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;During this period my husband drowned and unbelievably was buried. That
involved a year of my faithful counsellor and the coroner getting him exhumed
and cremated so we were finally able to have a funeral service which I held at
home, thanks to a very kind funeral director. My mother also died during my
illness.&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I left work to care for my crippled mother. Sadly she was totally immobile
and couldn’t even toilet herself. My son came with me, helping him back to
normality. He was very good with his grandmother, helping me a lot. One day a
pastor told me to see a doctor and do whatever he said. I didn’t understand.
Then I had my first panic attack. I visited my doctor and he also saw something
I didn’t, and he wanted me to have a couple of weeks rest in hospital. I
thought that was ridiculous. However, I had another panic attack and he
admitted me straight away.&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;That was the beginning of several years of barely existing and a deep black
hole. I became very suicidal and &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;really&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; wanted to die. I was in and out of hospital with serious attempts at
suicide. I harmed myself and tried to end my life in several ways; I was sectioned to a secure facility twice, which was really
frightening, sent to Perth on the RFD and my family was called in several times
when it looked as though I wouldn’t survive. I was diagnosed with PTSD and
later Borderline Personality Disorder: I understood PTSD but fought against BPD.
I was desperate; I burnt all id and photos, locked the doors and tried to take my life again.
However God had not finished with me yet. Apparently, two days later the door
was broken down and I was found unconscious. I had E coli pneumonia. My doctor
said I had finally done it. I didn’t respond to treatment, I was in an induced
coma and again sent to Perth.&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;In a final attempt to save me I was sent to a specialised program facilitated
by a wonderful psychiatrist (who explained anti-depressants can be needed just like
blood pressure tablets or any other long term medication), caring psychologists
and counsellors, where I attended full time for about two years. I had spells
in a ward attached to the program and was also again sectioned to a secure
facility (extremely scary because I didn’t know when they would release me). While
there a friend was discharged and killed herself. After the funeral her mum and
sister came to talk to me to try to understand and get answers. Another friend
tried to end her life , sadly &amp;nbsp;she became a quadriplegic, so I visited her also.&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Nevertheless the program was excellent and I was with others who were suffering.
We understood each other. We supported each other; we talked and talked and
there was a genuine caring link. The program had many varying sessions,
including talking about our pain, relaxation, craft and especially beneficial,
CBT. How I wish there were programs like this all over Australia.&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I finally felt ready to leave even though they wanted me to stay longer.
In hindsight I wish I had taken their advice. Recently I was again assaulted. The
justice system letting me down (they changed the law but it was not
retrospective), I had to struggle to finance two eye operations. Only recently
I finally discovered what BPD involved. It was a tremendous relief; I now
understand why I still suffer such emotional pain and feel the pain of others. This
week I suddenly fell into a bad space again; it was a dreadful shock. I must practice
self-care and find ongoing help. Throughout these events I have hidden behind a
strong pretence and worked with Hospice – Palliative Care, teams visiting maximum
security prisons, telephone counselling, face to face counselling and mentoring
with Kids Hope (World Vision). People are drawn to the peaceful empathic nature
of the &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;gift&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; I have been
given&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; - not
for my benefit but to understand and listen to others. It is a &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;responsibility&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt; I must not waste.&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Rosemary&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-weight: normal; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt; color: #0070c0;"&gt;Hayflick &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt; color: #0070c0;"&gt;(2004, as cited in Sigelman and Rider, 2009) is sceptical
about the research focusing on extending life and discovering the secrets of
youth. He says: “&lt;STRONG&gt;If our society would
learn to value old age to the same extent as we presently value youth&lt;/STRONG&gt;, then
the drive to slow, stop, or reverse the ageing process would be as unthinkable
as intervening in the developmental processes of youth” (p. 505).&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="line-height: 150%; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt; color: #0070c0;"&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:39:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/staying-well/its-hard-to-reach-out-for-help-and-its-hard-to-trust-and/m-p/94258#M10042</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rosemary</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-09-03T08:39:33Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/staying-well/its-hard-to-reach-out-for-help-and-its-hard-to-trust-and/m-p/94259#M10043</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;dear Rosemary, what can I say about this awful life that you had to endue, and these horrific events that have happened to you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I want to thank you so much for disclosing all of this to us, but you have developed a gift from all of this, but I'm sure that you would have found out without all of this trauma, it's been a terrible time for you, and that's the trouble because people have some or all of these similar events and do not get any help.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you and look after yourself. L Geoff. x&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2013 18:45:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/staying-well/its-hard-to-reach-out-for-help-and-its-hard-to-trust-and/m-p/94259#M10043</guid>
      <dc:creator>geoff</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-09-03T18:45:45Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Rosemary, you title to this thread says it all. Your story makes my problems seem so minute compared to yours, I just finished crying my eyes out over the wonderful responses I received to my first post, but reading your story has just blown me away. Your courage,&amp;nbsp; stamina and willpower, just to keep trying after all the horrific things that have occurred in your life is nothing short of amazing.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I take my hat off to you, and your story has certainly inspired me to keep going as I have nowhere near the problems that you have had to face.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you for sharing your story Rosemary, and keep fighting.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:04:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Rbjustme</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-09-11T07:04:11Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear Rosemary,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Incredible.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Out of all that history the one thing that resonated with me was the line &lt;STRONG&gt;"I finally felt ready to leave even though they wanted me to stay longer.&amp;nbsp; In hindsight I wish I had taken their advice".&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Even going in front of a Tribunial is a tough situation as I'm always keen to get out of the psych ward but at the same time I know a bit more treatment will keep me in better stead.&amp;nbsp; It's a really confusing decision.&amp;nbsp; Even one of my dog walking friends told my wife "They always think they can get out earlier".&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Give psych wards a slightly prison feel.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Adios, David.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:57:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>The_Real_David_Charles</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-09-11T10:57:33Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;Hi Rosemary,&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;Thanks isn’t nearly enough for sharing your life
story with us.&amp;nbsp; I hope you take comfort
and strength from surviving all of this and being able to help others as well.&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;Learning what you have about BPD is crucial; given
what you’ve been through it’s so difficult to cope with the sheer intensity of
emotions that come with it, and I’m so happy to hear you’re on the right track
with self-awareness and learning to manage your feelings.&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;Much love and best wishes to you.&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;Best&lt;BR /&gt;
CB&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;_____________________________________________________&lt;BR /&gt;
Online Community Manager&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:45:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Chris_B</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-09-16T23:45:31Z</dc:date>
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