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    <title>topic Re: Mental health and depression in Suicidal thoughts and self-harm</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Dakotaleelewis25&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I feel for you so much regarding the sometimes soul destroying lack of energy that can come with a depression. Until people have felt that for themselves, it's something that can be so hard to relate to. Those who can't relate may suggest ideas or directions that resemble 'trying to get a charge out of a flat battery'.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Wondering whether you've had anyone who's led you to identify the underlying reasons for the depressing lack of energy. There can be such a massive variety of reasons, some mental, some emotional (mental &lt;EM&gt;and&lt;/EM&gt; physical combined), some purely physical (chemical/biological) and some soulful or soul destroying. &lt;EM&gt;So many&lt;/EM&gt; different reasons or underling causes. When it's all rolled into one (aka 'an overall lack of energy in &lt;EM&gt;every&lt;/EM&gt; area'), would have to be one of the toughest things to deal with.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When it comes to detective work, the best detective to start with would have to be a GP. A good detective/GP should firstly detect whether there are any underlying chemical/biological deficiencies, with the help of blood tests and perhaps other tests. Next, they should be able to gain a clearer idea of what else could be causing the depression. If things aren't entirely clear to them, they should refer us to a more &lt;EM&gt;expert&lt;/EM&gt; detective in a particular field (in the field of psychology, psychiatry, biology or chemistry or even some kind of soulful detective if that's our thing, like with psycho spiritual counseling). Through experience, one thing I've learned is never settle for a GP saying 'It's just a part of life, feeling this way at times. It's normal'. Feeling that depressed or feeling a dysfunctional level of energy is never normal. Such dismissiveness from GPs led me to try and manage a depressing lack of B12 and a depressing level of sleep apnea until these things were eventually diagnosed and rectified.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;While I've faced a variety of depressing factors throughout my life, turns out I'm a gal who's sensitive enough to be able to &lt;EM&gt;feel&lt;/EM&gt; what's depressing. A far more empowering perspective than the one I was originally given earlier in my life, which was 'You're most likely someone who's prone to depression'. What the heck do you do with that depressing diagnosis? The challenge becomes about identifying &lt;EM&gt;exactly&lt;/EM&gt; what it is we're feeling happening within our self. Sounds like there's some detective work to be done, regarding what you're feeling/facing. I believe only the best detectives will do. If the 1st GP you see advises 'This is just a normal part of life', get a 2nd opinion. If the 2nd GP says the same thing, get a 3rd opinion and so on and so on. Keep going 'til you find one who says, in one way or another, 'Let's get to the bottom of this. We seriously need to identify the culprit/s'. We &lt;EM&gt;pay&lt;/EM&gt; people (Gps or specialists) to &lt;EM&gt;solve&lt;/EM&gt; the mystery, we don't pay them for us to walk away with no clue whatsoever. &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2024 23:56:23 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>therising</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-02-03T23:56:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Mental health and depression</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/suicidal-thoughts-and-self-harm/mental-health-and-depression/m-p/584223#M50047</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I've been feeling like this because of my depression my depression has been playing up so many days of the week I have been not for a focus in class it makes me very tired&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2024 11:41:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2024-02-03T11:41:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mental health and depression</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/suicidal-thoughts-and-self-harm/mental-health-and-depression/m-p/584242#M50048</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Dakotaleelewis25&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I feel for you so much regarding the sometimes soul destroying lack of energy that can come with a depression. Until people have felt that for themselves, it's something that can be so hard to relate to. Those who can't relate may suggest ideas or directions that resemble 'trying to get a charge out of a flat battery'.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Wondering whether you've had anyone who's led you to identify the underlying reasons for the depressing lack of energy. There can be such a massive variety of reasons, some mental, some emotional (mental &lt;EM&gt;and&lt;/EM&gt; physical combined), some purely physical (chemical/biological) and some soulful or soul destroying. &lt;EM&gt;So many&lt;/EM&gt; different reasons or underling causes. When it's all rolled into one (aka 'an overall lack of energy in &lt;EM&gt;every&lt;/EM&gt; area'), would have to be one of the toughest things to deal with.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When it comes to detective work, the best detective to start with would have to be a GP. A good detective/GP should firstly detect whether there are any underlying chemical/biological deficiencies, with the help of blood tests and perhaps other tests. Next, they should be able to gain a clearer idea of what else could be causing the depression. If things aren't entirely clear to them, they should refer us to a more &lt;EM&gt;expert&lt;/EM&gt; detective in a particular field (in the field of psychology, psychiatry, biology or chemistry or even some kind of soulful detective if that's our thing, like with psycho spiritual counseling). Through experience, one thing I've learned is never settle for a GP saying 'It's just a part of life, feeling this way at times. It's normal'. Feeling that depressed or feeling a dysfunctional level of energy is never normal. Such dismissiveness from GPs led me to try and manage a depressing lack of B12 and a depressing level of sleep apnea until these things were eventually diagnosed and rectified.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;While I've faced a variety of depressing factors throughout my life, turns out I'm a gal who's sensitive enough to be able to &lt;EM&gt;feel&lt;/EM&gt; what's depressing. A far more empowering perspective than the one I was originally given earlier in my life, which was 'You're most likely someone who's prone to depression'. What the heck do you do with that depressing diagnosis? The challenge becomes about identifying &lt;EM&gt;exactly&lt;/EM&gt; what it is we're feeling happening within our self. Sounds like there's some detective work to be done, regarding what you're feeling/facing. I believe only the best detectives will do. If the 1st GP you see advises 'This is just a normal part of life', get a 2nd opinion. If the 2nd GP says the same thing, get a 3rd opinion and so on and so on. Keep going 'til you find one who says, in one way or another, 'Let's get to the bottom of this. We seriously need to identify the culprit/s'. We &lt;EM&gt;pay&lt;/EM&gt; people (Gps or specialists) to &lt;EM&gt;solve&lt;/EM&gt; the mystery, we don't pay them for us to walk away with no clue whatsoever. &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2024 23:56:23 GMT</pubDate>
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