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Religious issues.

Lostflutterby — Mon, 07 Aug 2017 09:13:35 GMT

I know this may be a sensitive and subjective topic but its something i really cant find any info about. I was raised in a strict catholic community and household. Where it was taken literally my whole life. I was NEVER good enough and constantly reminded of it. I was made to feel guilty for merely existing and now that im in my mid 20s its affecting me in every aspect of my life. I feel guilty for sleeping, eating and i let people walk all over me including my 4 y.o daughter. I am getting help through my psychologist and gp and im not really looking for advice on help with it. Im mostly looking for anyone that may have any experience with this issue. Thanks for your time, and feel free to ask any questions.

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white knight — Mon, 07 Aug 2017 11:05:30 GMT

Hi and welcome

Im not really experienced in religious issues but I did write about guilt recently.

https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/online-forums/permalink/qnJRxHHzvGGEbv8AAOnT_A

Regards Tony WK

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white knight — Mon, 07 Aug 2017 11:11:44 GMT

Sorry, that didnt work

Try googling

Topic: blame, guilt and being fair to yourself- beyondblue

Tony WK

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Lostflutterby — Mon, 07 Aug 2017 11:19:22 GMT

No it did. I copy pasted the link into new browser. Ty.

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MsPurple — Mon, 07 Aug 2017 13:13:52 GMT

Hi Lostflutterby and welcome to the BB forums

I know what you mean by 'NEVER being good enough' It is common for someone with aspects of low self esteem or depression or anxiety or someone with perfectionist traights (remember I am not a doctor so I can not say what causes this for you). I feel the word you are looking for is Perfectionism.

It is hard to learn to not let people walk over you. Especially when you are anxious, want to be perfect and want everyone to like you. I know sometimes I let people walk all over me because I want to be liked. It does take time. With religion we sometimes do feel guilty. For Christians we feel guilty that we are not perfect and that Jesus had to be sent to wash away the sins of the world. But I try remember God is love. He did this because he loved us and understand we are not perfect beings. He wouldn't want us to feel eternally guilty but instead he would want to us to feel greateful and loved. Him and his son did this for us because they love us. He would want us to work on ourselves and to look after ourselves. I found a great therapist and GP that could support me. I believe God allowed us to advance in our ways of living and in medical intervention so we could get the help we needed to sustain good physical and mental health. There is no shame in being imperfect.

Hope this helps. You are not alone in feeling this way. I sometimes get anxious feelings for this. But I try remind myself that God is love and understanding

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Lostflutterby — Mon, 07 Aug 2017 13:45:32 GMT

Thank you. I have the greatest respect for anyones faith and by no means judge anyone in that respect. I however was not clear, i apologize. I am no longer practising and believe that the indoctirin of the church was the cause of my self esteem issues. Every action i make is not good enough regardless and i am incapable of doing anything on my own. I no longer believe or follow the church but their teachings are ingrained. Thank you for your replies :).

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white knight — Mon, 07 Aug 2017 22:38:09 GMT

Hi Lost

I do understand where you are at. I'm an athiest. I respect the messages in the bible and any other literature expressed that means good in the world.

The problem as I see it is mans interpretation and squabbling over religion. I'm not debating here, I'm refering to your issues actually.

This interpretation leads to family righteousness that results in suppression of childrens growth in confidence and individualism....to living a life of obligation and guilt. Often this is from fear of followers handed down to children. For this reason you have ended up where you are and its not a good place to be.

Like all similar situations one of the processes to get well (meaning not cured but well enough to function acceptably), is to focus on some positives...they are

You acknowledge what the problem is (I went 45 years not knowing "why")

You have had success in life to date (eg you are a mum)

You know the source of your issues

You are doing something about it.

I know you arent looking for advice. I merely want to mention to you that you are going in the right direction. Once treatment takes hold I think everything will begin to fall into place in a way that it doesnt at the moment.

Finally, it might seem your 4 yo is "walking over you" but all parents feel that. Your sensitivity on this topic, your awareness of your problem means there will be some over reaction to it. Getting this all in proper perspective is part of your rehabilitation process.

You are actually progressing. During this process you are going through - patting yourself on the back is a necessity.

Hope all that made sense.

Repost anytime. We are here for you.

Tony WK

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Neil_1 — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 00:25:43 GMT

Hi there LF

It’s not good to hear that you’ve got those teachings and all that went with that ingrained … but I guess it would be easy to understand, where one who was so young, is taken along all the time to have these things kind of ‘brain-washed’ into them. It is good to read that you are seeing a GP and also a psych to talk these issues through – as you said, you don’t need any questions about that, but it is pleasing to read that you were on the ball to take up that.

I guess a 4yo will take up a lot of time and attention from you, which doesn’t lend itself for you to be able to follow up any hobbies, interests, etc, where you can actually try and take up something that you really enjoy?

Things like being able to set little goals for yourself, even on a daily basis … achievable goals, so you’re then able to tick them off and by doing so, you can feel damn good about yourself – finishing off a goal – an achievement, which may help a little in pushing those mongrel thoughts that you’ve been having way back in the mind.

I hope something in my post has helped, even a little.

Neil

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Sparkle2017 — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 02:43:05 GMT

Glad you brought this up, a lot of good people have experienced religious abuse through teaching that depicts God as a tyrant out to punish if you don't get it right!! I've discovered that my desire to belong, have community support etc drew me into a downward spiral spiritually, it's a subtle deception and I'm glad I've at least found some truth as I discover more. Keep believing in yourself, thanks for sharing.

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Sparkle2017 — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 02:48:05 GMT

More of us should talk openly about this without feeling guilty.

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Lostflutterby — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 07:43:40 GMT

Ive actually found a source that suggested their is something called religious trauma syndrome. Not going to post a link as i am unsure if allowed. But a google search will bring it up straight away. It suggests that cognitive, emotional, social and cultural development are all affected. It is my life to a tee.

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Sparkle2017 — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 10:31:40 GMT

Thankyou..it's encouraging to know there's help out there.

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Lostflutterby — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 10:46:47 GMT

I guess i want to know im not alone with these issues and that other people struggle too because thats how their brains are programmed. All my supports are either anti religion or strong catholics but all are supportive. Hard not having anyone that actually understands the struggle...

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Lostflutterby — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 10:53:13 GMT

Hi, actually have a 4y.o and a 5 month old. I have two awesome housemates and we have a nice routine which means i get some time each night to do some things for myself. Have taken up scrapbooking and learning to knit. Also plan on painting some wooden letters for my girls door and learn cross stitch. Its really hard to be mindful despite all this when my entire life ive know no other ways of thinking. Thnx 🙂

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geoff — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 19:11:35 GMT

hello Lostflutterby, many different but good replies have been sent in.
As a very young child I used to pray every day, because each year someone in my family passed away, grandfather, uncle, grandmother etc. so what actually happened was that OCD took over as my religious beliefs were thrown away, so instead of praying I would do continuous habits, rituals hoping that it would help me, until finally it stayed with me and has been for such a long time and I still have it now, so this is how I developed OCD. Geoff.

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Lostflutterby — Wed, 09 Aug 2017 13:42:42 GMT

Ive actually been considering doing something to allow closure of my years involved with the faith. Something sort of ceremonial seems appropriate. Out of respect for my relatives who are religious and especially my dad who has passed. Idk its just a running idea right now. Anyone have thoughts on this?