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    <title>topic Traumer and skitzophrenia / ptsd with CTO in PTSD and trauma</title>
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    <description>Hello Jason, I went through a similar situation to you some years ago. I suffered from ptsd and major depression after being gang bashed and struck by a car when I tried to flee 10 years ago. I broke my pelvis and couldn't walk for 2 years. Over the next few years I spurred into depression and substance abuse, drinking and smoking dope every day to excess. I ended up in the psyche ward twice after refusing to eat. Being in there helped me reflect that my depression was caused by my negative attitude cornceaning  what I went through. I came to the conclusion that I must start to think positive to beat my depression. I really was completely at rock bottom so when I tried to think positive and not shut myself out from other people things really picked up quite rapidly. I've been clean and happy since I got out of the psyche ward 3 years ago and I can say for certain in my experience that just trying to think positive and talking to people again was the key to my success in conquering my depression. I can't change my past but I can control my future. I really do understand what you are going to and you're made the first step of improvement posting on this forum, well done. Try and be positive and you will be supposed how thing impoverished don't even take meds anymore I feel so clear now. Anyway good luck to you Jason, cheers.  Tiff h</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 05:53:31 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Tiffany_h</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-02-06T05:53:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Traumer and skitzophrenia / ptsd with CTO</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/ptsd-and-trauma/traumer-and-skitzophrenia-ptsd-with-cto/m-p/253775#M6878</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey guys.  I have never writton on this site but quite like reading everyone else's issues and questions about mental health.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;i was diagnosed with skitsophrenia years ago... the more I think about it and the more time has passed I believe I could of been given a misdiagnoses.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; when I think back  about my condition it only seemed to be ptsd from a traumatic night that I don't exactly remember.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;With my condition I am forced to take medication. From that medication and other issues I have developed many dependancies. The dependancies are keeping me focused for now but destroying everything slowly .I want to be clean of medication and dependencies. But how?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;any tips to over come ptsd with out medication ? And to turn around this diagnoses...And not to keep living in the  past but rather live in the here , now and plan for the future.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; everyday I can't stop thinking of the five W's ' what, when , where , why , who! But due to my train of thought I can focus on what most normal people focus on.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;my life is far from normal and in saying this I can't keep going down the track of making a mess out of my life ... &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; any tips? I'm a open book on this site so anything you would like to know or questions would be great!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 16:03:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Jasonw</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-02-05T16:03:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Traumer and skitzophrenia / ptsd with CTO</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Good to meet you, Jason.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Kudos to you for your interest in watching different aspects of mental illness through other sufferer's eyes. It can often helps bring insight into our own issues.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Reading your post, what I found disquieting is the uncertainty about your diagnosis. Wouldn't it be easier to deal with something if you knew exactly what it is ?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My own life has been a long series of traumas. The result ? PTSD, depression, anxiety and dissociation. Many years later, I consider myself mostly healed, scarred but functional. I went medication free and without formal professional therapy. My belief is that -unless genetic- the unconsciously created self (by past experiences and our responses) can be consciously reconfigured.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;BUT my own line of studies + ruthless mentoring by professional friends (no ongoing therapy) has played a significant part in recovery.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; The mind is a complicated maze at the best of times. It is supposed to be &lt;EM&gt;ours&lt;/EM&gt; when in reality it runs our life in a despotic way. We are its puppets. When brain mechanism (on which the mind depends) is thrown out of whack by trauma, everything becomes more confused. Control is lost, we wander in the labyrinth forever, bumping against dead ends, never finding the way out. Having a guide (or at least some sort of map) can be a valuable asset.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As you know, self-medication with alcohol or drugs doesn't resolve anything. It only contributes to complicating an already complex situation. A good place to start. I'd suggest it as a difficult but necessary first step.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; In the West, we are never told that the mind can actually be trained and controlled. No wonder it runs amok on us, dragging us in all sorts of directions where we don't want to go. A lifetime of running unreined makes it difficult to reclaim some measure of control. Mindfulness is what keeps us in the here and now. Like any seldom/never used muscle, it takes consistent, patient practice. (Checked out Smiling Mind ?)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But it is possible. I'd suggest you get a proper professional diagnosis, even if you are anti-therapy. There is no knowing where to go next if unsure where you are to start with. It may help you figure what would be the best approach for you. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Those of course are only suggestions, options for you to consider. I have read in other threads that you don't care much for therapy and have little time for therapists. It is true it may take several attempts to find someone you can trust and work with. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Kindest thoughts.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 02:52:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Starwolf</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-02-06T02:52:14Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Hello Jason, I went through a similar situation to you some years ago. I suffered from ptsd and major depression after being gang bashed and struck by a car when I tried to flee 10 years ago. I broke my pelvis and couldn't walk for 2 years. Over the next few years I spurred into depression and substance abuse, drinking and smoking dope every day to excess. I ended up in the psyche ward twice after refusing to eat. Being in there helped me reflect that my depression was caused by my negative attitude cornceaning  what I went through. I came to the conclusion that I must start to think positive to beat my depression. I really was completely at rock bottom so when I tried to think positive and not shut myself out from other people things really picked up quite rapidly. I've been clean and happy since I got out of the psyche ward 3 years ago and I can say for certain in my experience that just trying to think positive and talking to people again was the key to my success in conquering my depression. I can't change my past but I can control my future. I really do understand what you are going to and you're made the first step of improvement posting on this forum, well done. Try and be positive and you will be supposed how thing impoverished don't even take meds anymore I feel so clear now. Anyway good luck to you Jason, cheers.  Tiff h</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 05:53:31 GMT</pubDate>
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