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Can’t feel anything 2 years after trauma

AdriftAnnie — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 13:01:20 GMT

Hi,

I’ve posted on these forums a few times about being violently assaulted by my husband, one afternoon 2 years ago. Since then I’ve tried medication and therapy. They were somewhat helpful, until they weren’t anymore. Mostly I just cope by not thinking about it. I have no feelings about it really, but the trouble is I have no feelings about anything else either. I have young children so this is problematic.

If my children cry I will comfort them because I know that is what they want, but I don’t feel anything when they cry anymore. I feel defective and broken. I feel like I’m not a real mother. I take care of their needs, but the connection isn’t there. I’m not really interested in life or the future. I don’t care about anything. I used to be so close to my family, but I just feel disconnected from everyone now ... and not because of the social distancing rules. I have felt this way for at least a year.

Is this normal after a traumatic experience? Should emotional numbing really last this long? Does anyone have any idea what I can do? I feel lost.

Can’t feel anything 2 years after trauma

Guest_1643 — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 17:44:56 GMT

Hey Annie,

You've come to the right place, I think, posting here in the trauma/ptsd section.

I think emotional numbing can last long, until the person feels safe in their mind to confront it. I feel sad to read that you feel broken.

It's so hard to feel like going through the motions, like some level of connection is messing. I also felt like this, for actually about three years, and convinced myself I was actually doing quite well.

Trauma works in weird ways and sometimes pushes us in the wrong direction.... but eventually, I think, healing can come

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White_Rose — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 20:44:27 GMT

Dear AdriftAnnie

Welcome to the forum. This is a good place to talk about the traumatic happenings in your life. Like Sleepy21 there are many who have had similar experiences to you including me. The emotional flatness you describe is a normal reaction to trauma. Trying to make yourself feel anything will not work, it is a matter of time.

As Sleepy has commented that feeling of loss of connection is hard to manage. So what can you do. May I suggest that first up you stop trying to feel anything. This will come and you will grieve over the past. It's a bit like putting a dressing on a wound to stop infection. In this instance it is to stop anyone or anything causing you further pain.

I think it will help talking/writing on this forum. Knowing others have been down this path can be helpful. It is unfortunate you have found therapy is not working. This is also normal. When we get too close to reliving something it is instinctive to want to leave that door closed. Regretting the loss of connection with your children and family members could be seen as a hopeful sign. You have not been interested in making these connections up til now so perhaps the numbness is starting to crumble.

I do hope this is the case though I will add that it's a painful road to travel. Once we let the world back in everything changes. As Sleepy has said, Trauma works in weird ways and sometimes pushes us in the wrong direction.... but eventually, I think, healing can come. You will need as much support as you can get. I have not read any of your previous posts so I don't know what happened that day. No need to repeat this, especially if it hurts.

What many people have found helpful is keeping a journal. I often say it is better to handwrite this as it keeps you more in touch the what's happened or happening, but if writing on your computer is more comfortable please do this. Keep dates on your jottings but don't re-read them for a month. Just write as often as possible. Having that little distance can be useful. When you do look back I think you will be surprised at your own insights.

In the meantime please keep talking to us here.

Mary

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Guest_1643 — Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:15:25 GMT

Hey Annie,
How are you going with it all?
Thank you Mary for such beautiful, trauma-informed suggestions.
I also want to recommend the book by (I've certainly got his name wrong) Bessel Van de Kaulk - The Body Sets the Score.

It helped me feel less alone and has some great insights into what works and doesn't work in addressing trauma. Hope everyone is having a decent day x

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AdriftAnnie — Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:23:52 GMT

Thank you both for your responses. I think you are both right and that it will take time. I almost feel like my husband stole something from me that day. I was a good mum. I was affectionate and present. Now I can barely stand to be touched. He wasn’t a good dad or husband, but after what he did and the punishment he received he’s a new man. He’s happy and calm and he is connected to them in a way he never used to be. I shouldn’t resent him - they have a good father now - but I can’t help it. He has everything he wants and I’m left feeling like a visitor in my own life. I’ve never actually expressed these feelings before so maybe you are right, Mary, and some of the numbness is dissipating. I hope so.

Anyway, thank you both for responding. Your kindness really helped me today.

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AdriftAnnie — Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:26:59 GMT

Thanks for checking in. I had an okay day. It always feels good when someone responds with kindness, so thank you again. I will definitely look up that book!

I hope you’re safe and well x

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White_Rose — Wed, 08 Apr 2020 21:23:30 GMT

Thank you for kind words. I do not return posts very quickly as I am unwell. This is a physical illness but I have also been where you are now and it's not nice. I will post as often as I can.

I can relate to your feelings that your husband has come through the experience much better than you. When I left my husband I felt my children were angry with me. They had all left home by then and were starting families of their own. I have never told them the reasons for leaving and now, 20 years down the track, it not only seems pointless but will not make anything better. I am slowly healing. It's taken a long time because other traumas also happened. For a while I felt that nothing of any use or goodness would ever happen to me. Maybe I was not worthwhile.

Like you I spent a long time in therapy. I did see a psychiatrist but I have always said the best help I had was from my GP. She is an amazing person. Now I feel whole again. It will happen. Does your husband still live with you? I ask because I can see how it could increase your trauma or at least prevent you from healing. Maybe now you are starting to come out of the deep freeze you have lived with for so long it's time to go to another therapist.

Keep writing.

Mary

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Guest_1643 — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 06:52:26 GMT

I am sorry to hear the toll it has taken on you, and fully understand your sense that something was taken.
I struggle very much with seeing how abusers can often win, but if you are able to heal, sometimes the inner strength, self awareness and power you gain, means you can, in the end, "win."
I'm glad you're here. It's great that you are asking these questions and seeking help, it's a major step in getting there. Definitely takes time.

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White_Rose — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 05:53:53 GMT

Hello Annie and Sleepy

It does seem unfair when the perpetrator of a trauma thrives afterwards and lives a fulfilling life while you are left to pick up the pieces. Been there. I still get angry at times and perhaps have a childish temper tantrum. I know the person who made my life hell is flourishing. Why should he get off?

I think the first thing we need to accept is that what has happened or not happened to the other person is nothing to do with us. We have no control over someone's life and actions. Neither do we have control over any retribution for that person. I know it's hard and often we can feel that if we were to mete out some punishment or other we would feel better. Sadly that's not the case. In fact it's quite the reverse. I know it sounds silly to say but I believe we would also feel guilty if we could determine a suitable punishment.

This is why it is the duty of the law and those who are there to protect us who must determine the punishment. Of course many of our hurts do not end up in court and it is this feeling of frustration and anger that causes us to want revenge of some sort. I know I felt like that and sometimes still do.

While we are focused on the other person and what should happen to them we are ignoring our own needs. This is the important and necessary part of healing, caring for ourselves. I know it's not easy to say ignore the other person but one way we can do this is to look at ways we can heal ourselves. You never know, the other person may feel disgruntled because we have healed and maybe that person has not. So if you can, please change your thoughts about the other person by concentrating on your own life. That is the most important part.

To do this we may need the help of someone such as a psychologist or psychiatrist. As I said, my GP helped me the most. Annie I know you felt it was not helping but maybe try again. You have come a long way even though you may not realise it. Chat to your GP and ask for a referral to another therapist unless you feel particularly drawn to the person you saw previously.

Start your journey from here with the thought that you will no longer be the victim. You will take charge of your life. A victim is weak and powerless, too self absorbed to look ahead or around and can remain stuck in that spot for a long time. I hasten to add I don't see you as weak because you are getting on with your life. Let someone in to help you along this part of the journey.

Mary

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AdriftAnnie — Sat, 11 Apr 2020 15:02:45 GMT

Thanks Mary. My husband actually spent 5 weeks in prison for breaching the avo after the assault. He spent weeks trying to get me back and threatening suicide when I resisted. Eventually he started threatening me. I think the punishment was just. He doesn’t. He called me from prison every day crying telling me I had to get him out of there and that he was being beaten up. It was honestly the most horrible time of my life. I felt so sorry for him that I supported him in court and wrote him a character reference. After he was given a suspended sentence and community service, the police prosecutor berated me and made me feel that it was my behaviour that was to blame and that I was the reason my husband went to prison. Soon after I saw a new psychologist who also told me I was to blame for my husband’s violence. My self esteem is pretty low, so it’s easy to entertain the thought that they are right.

I’ve been through a lot in my 15 years with him and so it is hard to actually feel like I’m powerful enough to do anything about my situation. He is back at home with us, a new man. He doesn’t get angry anymore and he seems genuinely grateful to have a second chance. I let him come home in spite of my family and how they feel and how he hurt them. I let him come home in spite of myself. I always thought that one day he would do something so terrible to me that a switch would go off in my head and I would just leave. And then he did do something so terrible to me, after years of doing terrible things to me, and I still haven’t left. I can’t explain it, but it seems the more he hurts me, the harder it is to leave. Every psychologist I have been to wants me to end the relationship, so I end the sessions instead because I can’t do it. I’m not strong enough. I appreciate you saying I’m not weak or a victim, but I am. I’ve lost the respect of everyone in my life because of this decision. My family are so ashamed that I’ve let him come home that they lie to my extended family and say we’re not together. It is an absolute mess and I am to blame.

Once the pandemic is over I will go to my GP. I guess it can’t hurt to keep trying. Anyway, thanks for your wise words. They really gave me something to think about tonight.

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White_Rose — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 05:31:48 GMT

Hello Annie

Yes please go to your GP. Do not wait until the pandemic is over as this may not be for some time. I saw my GP this morning and I was the only patient there. In and out in record time. The waiting room chairs are placed the mandatory distance apart and everyone is expected to use the antiseptic hand-wash as they enter. I think all doctors' practices are doing this or similar. It's amazing how shops and medical practices etc have barriers across the reception counter and just about everyone conforms with where to stand etc.

It's not just your husbands actions you cannot control. Your family come into this category as well. What they think is right and proper may not be the best for you. It doesn't help they feel they must lie to others about you when it would be more constructive to listen to what is happening to you and offer you help such as a refuge for you and your children.

I have read a bit about abused wives and why they stay in an abusive relationship. Why they even support their husbands when others are saying they should not do this. As I understand it the more a woman is abused the more they lose their self confidence and cannot make decisions. You want to make sure your children have a home to live in and this is part of the reason for staying. Having or not having the confidence to provide a home and food on the table. Where do you start to learn these things?

As the woman are continually abused their ability to stand up for themselves decreases. Even those women who do leave the home have returned because they cannot cope 'out there'. My first few years on my own were horrendous and I had no dependent children and had a good job.

This is why I think you need to talk to your GP soon and get a referral to someone who has specific interest in domestic abuse. While most people understand that DV is dreadful they have little or no idea of the effect on wives and the children who observe this abuse. The children are just as much at risk of trauma as their moms.

Please look at some web sites on DV. https://www.lifeline.org.au/get-help/topics/domestic-family-violence Also look at https://www.qld.gov.au/community/getting-support-health-social-issue/support-victims-abuse/domestic-family-violence This is a Qld service but if you live in another state google DV + your state. Just copy and paste the addresses into your browser.

Mary

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Guest_1643 — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 12:30:49 GMT

Hi Mary and Annie,

I agree very much with Mary that your actions are not weak. I think that is victim-blaming. If it were so easy to leave , you would've left, I've no doubt there were complicated and confusing factors that had you stay. Trauma did the same to me in another form - I'd constantly seek out abusive partners. I did not realise I was doing this. I thought because I noticed superficial differences in the men, that they were each time "different" and "not like the others" - and lo and behold, the same thing would keep happening. I felt so much self-hatred and blame. But I now feel that the best thing I could've done is seen myself as a victim and loved myself harder and with more kindness. I was trying the best way I knew how. So were you.

As you keep evolving and growing and learning, you will be able to make new choices, as a new person, with new knowledge. I do not think your past choices make you weak. Please try and go to the gp, if you can.

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AdriftAnnie — Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:14:30 GMT

Thank you Mary. That is good advice. I have seen a counsellor who deals only with DV victims. She was a lovely lady who was so gentle with me and never made me feel guilty about decisions I’ve made. They ran a playgroup as well which I attended with my youngest and that too was really affirmative. That was some time ago though and well before my husband moved back in. I can get back in touch anytime and it is a free service but honestly I feel ashamed that he is back home and I also worry about FACS becoming involved again. Our children weren’t present on the day of the assault, but I can understand how my ability to keep them safe was scrutinised. It was a very stressful time in my life and still causes me anxiety to this day. The kicker was that my husband wasn’t interviewed once by them. Just me. I had to prove over a series of months that I was a suitable parent. It was demoralising to say the least. Because of that experience I still live in worry about having them taken from me. Of not being good enough.

Thank you again for your advice. I know it’s probably frustrating to provide so many solutions and just get excuses from me for why I can’t go through with any of them. I’m really sorry. I don’t want to waste anyone’s time on here, but I want you to know that just knowing you have read my posts and responded so thoughtfully is very helpful to me. So thank you.

Annie

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AdriftAnnie — Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:37:35 GMT

Thank you so much for your post. It means a lot to know that people care enough to respond and provide support. It helps to know that others have been through something similar. It is a long road, but slowly I feel like I am returning to who I used to be.

All the best to you on your journey too.

Annie

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Sophie_M — Tue, 28 Apr 2020 12:48:15 GMT

Hi AdriftAnnie,

It's wonderful to see that you are finding some support in some of our lovely community members. We are so glad to hear that the forums are helpful for you. Please don't feel any pressure to enact solutions that people have offered. You are the expert of your own life, and none of us can pretend to know best, only do our best to think of some options that might be helpful for you.

It sounds like the counsellor you had was really positive for you. We would strongly recommend that you get in touch with the lovely lady again - remember that you also said that she never made you feel guilty for the decisions that you made. It sounds like she would not want you to feel ashamed that your husband is back home. Services like these are so happy to bring some positivity and support into your life - the last thing anyone would want is to make you feel ashamed.

This counsellor would be familiar with your case and is probably also the best person to talk to about your concerns with FACS. We're so sorry to hear that you went through that - we can understand why this would be really concerning for you. Please know that you are good enough, and you sound like a very loving mother.

Feel free to keep us updated on what you're thinking and feeling whenever you up to it. You're a valuable member of our online community and we care about what you're going through.