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    <title>topic Psychiatrist versus Psychologist in PTSD and trauma</title>
    <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/ptsd-and-trauma/psychiatrist-versus-psychologist/m-p/457528#M15299</link>
    <description>I have been seeing my
psychiatrist for over 6 years. He is my rock. He knows how I feel, think and
breathe. He is the third psychiatrist i have seen throughout my life. The first
one was when I was 14 and the second when i was approximately 20. I am now 58.
In between i have seen a myriad of psychologists and counselors and
unfortunately they never recognised me as having CPTSD. So i spent 38 years
searching for answers but I never gave up.  During the 38 years i
developed an addiction to alcohol which brought my life and the lives of my
family nothing but mayhem and sadness. I have always been honest about my
drinking and as such I would discuss this with the counselors and
psychologists. Despite my disclosure of a myriad of other behaviors and things
(including severe depression) occurring in my life, they always determined
alcohol as the cause for all of my problems. If I were to give up alcohol then
all would be good! I'm not suggesting that any substance abuse is good, what I
am saying is that it is not the cause. Because of my personal experience I
wonder if psychologists are able to identify the cause of substance abuse and
or the symptoms of complex disorders such as CPTSD, which I have. Please, I'm
not bagging psychologists I am simply putting this out there for discussion.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
We must never give up!</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2019 08:19:39 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>CKS</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-09-15T08:19:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Psychiatrist versus Psychologist</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/ptsd-and-trauma/psychiatrist-versus-psychologist/m-p/457528#M15299</link>
      <description>I have been seeing my
psychiatrist for over 6 years. He is my rock. He knows how I feel, think and
breathe. He is the third psychiatrist i have seen throughout my life. The first
one was when I was 14 and the second when i was approximately 20. I am now 58.
In between i have seen a myriad of psychologists and counselors and
unfortunately they never recognised me as having CPTSD. So i spent 38 years
searching for answers but I never gave up.  During the 38 years i
developed an addiction to alcohol which brought my life and the lives of my
family nothing but mayhem and sadness. I have always been honest about my
drinking and as such I would discuss this with the counselors and
psychologists. Despite my disclosure of a myriad of other behaviors and things
(including severe depression) occurring in my life, they always determined
alcohol as the cause for all of my problems. If I were to give up alcohol then
all would be good! I'm not suggesting that any substance abuse is good, what I
am saying is that it is not the cause. Because of my personal experience I
wonder if psychologists are able to identify the cause of substance abuse and
or the symptoms of complex disorders such as CPTSD, which I have. Please, I'm
not bagging psychologists I am simply putting this out there for discussion.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
We must never give up!</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2019 08:19:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/ptsd-and-trauma/psychiatrist-versus-psychologist/m-p/457528#M15299</guid>
      <dc:creator>CKS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-15T08:19:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Psychiatrist versus Psychologist</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/ptsd-and-trauma/psychiatrist-versus-psychologist/m-p/457529#M15300</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear CKS~&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This has been a much discussed topic and I'll list a few starting places below. There are some fundamental differences in cost, medicare rebates, depth of training and ability to prescribe medications. I have a psychiatrist as my mainstay, with brief forays to psychologists at his direction for particular matters.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I suggest you follow the links here:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
    &lt;LI&gt;&lt;EM&gt;https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/online-forums/treatments-health-professionals-and-therapies/psychologist-vs-psychiatrist&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
    &lt;LI&gt;&lt;EM&gt;https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/who-can-assist&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
    &lt;LI&gt;&lt;EM&gt;https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/psychologists-and-psychology&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;While I would certainly agree a psychiatrist, as a medical doctor with extensive further training should be better at diagnosis, sometimes it depends upon the person.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If the symptom is taken as the cause that would be most frustrating. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I hope this helps&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Croix&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2019 10:55:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/ptsd-and-trauma/psychiatrist-versus-psychologist/m-p/457529#M15300</guid>
      <dc:creator>Croix</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-15T10:55:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Psychiatrist versus Psychologist</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/ptsd-and-trauma/psychiatrist-versus-psychologist/m-p/457530#M15301</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear CKS,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I must say that on reading your post, I almost feel a little as though you are telling my story! I too was diagnosed with severe PTSD at 14, I too have seen a myriad of psychologists and counselors and the like throughout my life, and I too am now close to 50, AND I too had some problems associated with drinking! &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;However I have now been sober for some 22 years (coming up to 23 years in December) and I must say that getting sober is the best decision I ever made. Ever. Having said that, it has also been a very long and arduous journey. One that has involved as much 'unlearning' about myself, as it has involved learning. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What I mean by that is that, as a young child, from before I drank, I had a LOT of trauma (hence the PTSD stuff), and when I drank, although I was already 'messy in the head', it seemed to ease the pain of my mental unrest. ..... for want of a better description anyway. But then the drink seemed to turn on me and ruined my life; I lost friends, family, jobs, relationships and my dignity because of my continued bad behavior. So, with 'gritted teeth' I got sober ...... and then, of course, the PTSD resurfaced with a vengeance and I had to once again deal with the issues that had 'triggered' me to drink in the way I had. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What I'm saying now is that I have now learnt two things; one is that I can't drink because I can't handle the stuff ...... because it ends up handling me and I lose things like my dignity and what have you. And that I also have mental health issues that need tending to sometimes. But if I don't address both issues, in the best way possible, then one tends to feed off the other and I can once again spiral out of control. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So to put it another way; I thought I drank because of my problems, but then I discovered that some of my problems were because of my drinking. It's a bit of an oxymoron, but hopefully you get what I mean?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In a nutshell, what I need, in order to have the best life I can, is to treat &lt;EM&gt;both &lt;/EM&gt;my drinking issues (now resolved through getting sober), AND my PTSD by getting help and support for my mental health, and attending regular frequent meetings of AA. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks again for the post. Will keep an eye out for further discussion on the matter! Take care. xo&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2019 10:56:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/ptsd-and-trauma/psychiatrist-versus-psychologist/m-p/457530#M15301</guid>
      <dc:creator>Soberlicious96</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-15T10:56:37Z</dc:date>
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