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Why is earth so cruel?

Guest5643 — Sat, 26 Oct 2019 10:02:01 GMT

I know no one can answer this but i dont understand why humankind was created to endlessly suffer. Its not fair. Why wasnt humankind created to feeI peace. Im realy angry with this life and so exhausted. I get this intense scared feeling for no reason like im haunting myself. Why were we all created to endure non stop mental suffering. I want my mummy back.

Lynne

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Soberlicious96 — Sat, 26 Oct 2019 10:33:45 GMT

Dear Helium,

Welcome to Beyond Blue.

I'm sorry to hear that you feel there is such suffering in the world. I am wondering though, when you said you "want your Mummy back" if that grief is a very recent thing? Would you perhaps like to talk some more about your Mum and why she's not around any more?

If you don't want to talk about that, then that's fine. Maybe there are some other things you would like to get off your chest?

I can't say that I agree that we were created just for endless suffering, but I certainly do hear you when you say that the suffering seems endless. It's for that reason that many years ago, I stopped watching the news on TV. I find the news to be distressing and all bad. to me, it's just people making money out of other people's misery. And I, much like you, have had enough misery to last me a lifetime.

Anyway, I just wanted you to know that you've been heard. And that maybe I haven't answered your question, but maybe I have helped you to know that you are not quite so alone, yeah?

Take care, and remember you can come back here as much as you like. I'll be thinking of you. xo

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MyLadyGirl — Sat, 26 Oct 2019 12:09:49 GMT

Hi Lynne,

I am so sorry that life has been treating you unwell. When you said'I want my mummy', I assume that your in grief and need to express your deep inner feeling that your holding. You are most welcome to talk about it only if you are ready and feel too.

In your post you refer mankind to suffer. Not all mankind suffer. It's how you to choose to suffer. Mankind is here to learn what is important in life. Yes we do suffer because we allow to be suffered. If we do not bound to that suffering and give it importance we will not suffer. That's why mankind has no peace within themselves. What make one peace is discovering that mankind needs to learn reality of live. Their purpose of living here. Live here with no attachment so one can find peace within themselves. If you have attachment we suffer. When we were in the mother's stomach we were alone. When we depart, we depart alone. In between that we learn what need to be done and we live fullness. We lift ourselves based on the learning we learn and experiences.

I know it's hard to accept things but I hope you can express your feelings and that is if you are ready and willing to be helped.

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Guest5643 — Mon, 28 Oct 2019 01:08:06 GMT

Hi soberlcious

I cry out i want my mummy when i get realy scared. Sometimes i get this intense fear internaly like im being haunted on the inside. Ive talked about my mum on other threads so forgive me for not wanting to repeat it. I watch the project as my news, they some how make it fun.

Lynne

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Guest5643 — Mon, 28 Oct 2019 01:39:38 GMT

Hi myladygirl

So much i want to say so ill keep it brief. Ive reread your post over and over to make sure i havnt misread it. I fail to see how innocent children allow to be suffered nor do i see how one allows to be suffered by mental illness.

Lynne

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MyLadyGirl — Mon, 28 Oct 2019 10:36:20 GMT

Lynne,

People with mental illness suffer because of many reason and some from an unhealthy environment. Yes this eventually develop as they grow. And No innocent should not be suffered because it's not their choice. But who are we to choose what life we want when we are baby. It's what life have chosen for me. If the environment is or was unhealthy there will be probably build in my mind and since it's been planted into the subconscious mind it become illness where the mind works over and over again till it become mentally unstable and we become disturbed. This can be overcome by talking to GP that can help you, talk to friends or talk to a helpline like BB. Saying that, it still be in the subconscious mind unless one realize it. I am sorry that I may not know what mental illness that you are suffering form but to let you know that you are not alone. There are people out there that have recovered from it. It's how we choose or want our life to be. Mental illness can be overcome if we realize this is not what we want. We need to realise that life need to move on and there is a beautiful picture out there. If we want beauty we need to create beauty within one self. We need to create beautiful chapter and you deserved that. You should give your self a chance to not let the mind over come you. Then you can see that mental illness can be over come.

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Guest5643 — Mon, 28 Oct 2019 13:45:39 GMT

Hi Myladygirl

You seem to be in a great place mentaly and kudos to you👍. Just because alot of people who are still struggling with mental illness daily dosnt mean they havnt tried hard to overcome it and still try hard. I have complex ptsd,real ocd,mdd,anxiety and i might seem self absorbed in the forums but i know in my heart i try as realisticly as i can. I think we need to be careful not to judge people who are still unwell as not willing.

Lynne

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MyLadyGirl — Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:55:23 GMT

Hello Helium,

My apologies for not understanding your true condition and thinks wrongly about the whole situation. I truly understand that I was in a wrong. I also understand that you have tried your level best to over come your situation. I am not judging anyone because I went through a very anxiety and depression situation and over come it. I even had friends that went to MDD, anxiety and depression and after realising them they are now happy. I am also OCD and people get so irritated with me. I am so sorry that I have hurt you.

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Guest5643 — Wed, 30 Oct 2019 00:33:36 GMT

Hi Myladygirl

Absolutely nothing to apologise for☺

Your a wonderful person with wonderful insight. We're all on all here for a reason and are sensitive at times due to our illnessess so its easy to step on each others toes at times☺

Lynne

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white knight — Wed, 30 Oct 2019 01:45:50 GMT

Hi Myladygirl and helium

Two of my favourite posters her on the forum and you both got through that little conflict- great. That's what understanding is all about.

I have this inground belief of peoples individual capacity. We are all limited in so many ways. For example- I'm 130kg, if I wish to be a gymnast or distance runner then my wishes are unrealistic. I'd be torturing myself to continue to give those desires one minute of thinking time.

There are many more examples but that summarises that. Now, if I wish to be a pro golfer that can be considered for say two minutes because it is within peoples capacity if they have the physical commitment and ability, but in my case at 63yo and severe arthritis in my knees, two minutes is enough to ponder on it- then also discounted.

Then there is my bipolar, anxiety, depression and dysthymia (low mood constant depression). If I believe I can overcome all of them I'm not being realistic. Among other things bipolar is a brain issues with chemicals and all sorts of other irregularities. My dysthymia cause was a childhood trauma that is well held by medication that has proven a great success, my depression (separate from bipolar depression) is also well held by the meds for dysthymia basically anti D's. But anxiety is a total other matter and after 22 years I conquered it totally. All mentioned in the following thread.

https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/online-forums/anxiety/anxiety-how-l-eliminated-it#qpS1gXHzvGGEbv8AAOnT_A

So, that achievement and my techniques might not work for others. It also might not take 22 years as it did for me. But it worked nonetheless. It was within my capacity to eliminate it. If we focus on mental illness to rid it all from our lives then that tells me-

I'm not being fully realistic with my abilities

I'll likely suffer for trying to eliminate illnesses that cannot be eliminated. Eg my lifestyle and general happiness will suffer as I try so hard for my aims.

As for life being cruel. As a former prison officer (42 years ago) I saw the dark side of life. I left that job at 24yo and developed a theory. "tony, if you cant beat it, get away from it". That theory led to me moving from the city to begin a life in the country.

https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/online-forums/staying-well/want-to-be-a-hermit-#qltvMHHzvGGEbv8AAOnT_A

We have to look after our mental health. For me part of that is watching news that doesn't display human destruction and cruelty.

TonyWK

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CKS — Wed, 30 Oct 2019 03:16:23 GMT

Hi Lynne

I agree with the suggestion that we are all different and as such we all heal differently.

I am 58 years of age and my trauma started at 6 years of age. I was diagnosed with CPTSD at age 55... only 3 years ago. I went through a lot of emotions when the diagnosis came. For the most they were relief, anger and fear. I started to do some research about CPTSD and became aware that the condition is with one forever. But my psychiatrist said it doesn't have to be all consuming anymore. The more I learnt about my condition and its symptoms i started to understand myself and validate my person. The more I learnt the more control i seemed to bring into my life and upon the symptoms I hated so immensely. The more i acknowledged the why's and how fore's the more peace i brought into my life and the lives of the ones i love. I did a lot of writing and visualisation techniques. I grew to accept that i will always have CPTSD, but since my diagnosis I have healed a great deal and found a special sense of peace within me.

I Hope this helps in some way.

With love CKS

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MyLadyGirl — Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:20:15 GMT

Hello CKS,

You have got my point there. It's how you over come a person problem thinking out of the box. Doing things by learning itself the consequences and reason behind it and over coming it in a form of visualisation and knowing what is wrong. You learned that the people that are with you supported you and being there to over come your problem.

There is no words to say that you have overcome your deepest illness and found peace within your self.

Kudos to you CKS.

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MyLadyGirl — Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:32:22 GMT

All good with me. It's just I used to hate the world so badly until I realise that I was the cause of the hate. Yes we are in different capacity in learning about our illness. Thank you for understanding me and having me to talk about what's happening.

Cheers

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MyLadyGirl — Wed, 30 Oct 2019 09:00:30 GMT

Hello Tony WK,

Thank you for sharing your stories about your self. Yes we limit our self due to age, our health and other matters. We cannot be like before. I too feel weak sometimes but never make myself to fall in negative though especially with a different mindset of thinking in culture and what people are doing.

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therising — Wed, 30 Oct 2019 20:31:31 GMT

Hi Lynne

I wish I was there to give you the biggest warmest hug, I do wish so much.

I also wish that you could find the child within, the one that perhaps knew peace at one point; the one that loved to laugh and play, to adventure, to trust, to love and so much more. Perhaps that's the part that can haunt us all at some stage, that little soul who knocks on the door of our mind and says 'Please remember me'.

I believe peace to be about growing up with that child, maturing that child. Growing out of being that child can be an incredibly painful process. One day we may look at our self and grieve for this part of us we've lost. We may, in our mind, say 'I want my mummy to show me how to live again, as I have forgotten and I'm scared and sad'.

A little out of the the blue but I've absolutely come to love Seal's music all over again but for different reasons compared to why I used to love it. One things Seal states on his earlier albums is that songs mean different things to different people, which is why he cares not to reveal what they actually mean. I love them because I imagine them to reflect beautiful divine conversations. Sounds a bit crazy but his music makes my heart sing for this reason. There's a song called 'Don't cry' which has an opening which goes 'Don't be so hard on yourself, those tears are for someone else. I hear your voice on the phone, I hear you feel so alone, my baby'. I imagine the divine in this line expressing to the child 'Don't be so hard on yourself, those tears are for the older you who's suffering. I hear you in prayer, crying because you feel no one can help or understand, little one'. He goes onto sing 'When we were young and truth was paramount, we were older then and we lived our life without any doubt'. When we were young, very young, we lived as our true self. We were much wiser in how we lived, without any doubt (before others put it there). We grew out of being our self, our most authentic self.

The question becomes 'How do we re-turn to the truth, to our self?' I think first we have to have faith that sweet self is still there, inside of us, patiently waiting to be brought back to life. If it's any help, when I'm in two minds about something, I will always trust the child in me to make the best decision, within reason. You know that sort of talk that goes 'I want to do this', then you hear the saboteur in you say 'No, you can't do that. What would people say?' I just do it, without any doubt. I trust.

Take care Lynne

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Guest5643 — Thu, 31 Oct 2019 04:22:33 GMT

Thankyou everyone for your super kind thoughtful thoughts words from the heart. I know id be a very different person if jesse was still working. I saw a cattle dog working at the shops today😔

I think the cruelest thing with life creation is that we were created to dream each night. So many people constantly wake up exhausted cause of nightmares and night terrors. We would be so much more mentaly sound if we constantly had sleep with no memories so we could truly rest our mind. I have felt that pure warm intense peace with my nde. Ive never ever felt anything like that while here. So i know peace does exist. I havnt listened to seal but ill look at his music. My favourites are linkin park and sia. There lyrics are incredible.

Ive been in remission before for my depression so i know it can happen again. It wasnt helful when the psych said you had severe depression at 16 then at 32 so in 10-15 yrs youll most likely get it severe again and so on. Im not saying he was right however. My ocd and autism however is something that is not curable but i wouldnt want it to be either. My aspergers is something i generaly dont mention it cause i find people to talk to treat me like an idiot when they find out. It became a useful scapegoat tool to use for my family for there problems mistakes.

Lynne

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therising — Fri, 01 Nov 2019 20:56:23 GMT

Hi Lynne

I hope you definitely don't listen to anyone who tells you that depression will most likely come back. I remember when I was in my depression many years ago, people told me I'd probably be living with it for the rest of my life. Nothing quite like that bit of info to seal the fate of the soulful child in us.

1) We begin as the child and if we're fully inspired then we reach the highs of our natural self. 2) If we're not inspired then we do not live up to our greatest potential. 3) If the child in us becomes deeply hurt time and time again then bits of that aspect of us feel like they are removed. So it's kind of like we can come to live life on a high, whilst grounded by acquired maturity and experience or we can live a basic grounded experience or we can live a life below ground (kind of like a living hell), in a depression. I believe a nde is pretty much as high as one can get whilst we're here on earth. So I can understand that incredible peaceful feeling. It must have felt exhilarating, to say the least.

The dream aspect of our existence is definitely interesting. I love interpreting dreams. I believe we dream in metaphors. Once you learn to master the language of dreams, they can prove inspiring. I believe dreams or nightmares will typically call for us to seek opportunities that are being presented to us in life. A couple of examples:

You dream you're approaching the front door of your childhood home but are being followed by someone or something 'evil'. You feel like you're going to be killed. You suddenly wake up. My interpretation - There may be an opportunity present or coming to life which entails you 'returning home' (to your childlike nature). You may fear that child in you is going to be destroyed by another before you can open the door to that possibility. Take home message - Wake up and have faith and fear nothing and no one who threatens your opportunity to fully live. When you reverse the word 'live', the subconscious proves itself to be rather a quirky clever thing. The opposite of living is like 'being in hell' at times
Being able to naturally fly relates to 'seeking the natural highs in life'. Take home message - Take notice of things that offer natural highs, which will help take you out of the lows. Eg: Research high vibrational food, pure water without chemicals, high vibing natural people etc, places in nature which are reputed as having high energy (natural springs for example). Ley lines are an interesting topic 🙂

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MyLadyGirl — Sat, 02 Nov 2019 04:23:19 GMT

therising, they way you said and expressed yourself about child within our self is a very interesting way to understand what people goes through in life. I agree with you that one should not listen to others because different people have different opinion and way of thinking. When you listen to people we believe that what they say may be true and will fill fall under depression and hence hate the world thinking it's a bad world. I remember my late aunty told me, when you are young you think that the world was a playground and people loves you. No problems, no depression, no anxiety and no mental illness. As years goes by, we became more immersed to the world. We became attached to the surrounding. People talks, people lifestyle, family issues we get involved, what's not we want happen and eventually we get absorbed with it without realising the true meaning. We let go the child that was so happy within (except crying for milk and sleeping) because of our desire wanting for things and depression. We let go the child. However, that child can be unlocked if we want. I always believe that we only limit oneself and not take chances. We follow just one way just to protect one self from being hurt and getting hurt. We don't want the child to come out because afraid to be hurt and being hurt so we use a safe journey.

The way you have interpreted , dreams is very impressive and meaningful. Life can be a hell if it's look into another way. But I do not understand when you say ' When you reverse the word 'live', the subconscious proves itself to be rather a quirky clever thing. The opposite of living is like 'being in hell' at times' Care to share what it means.

Lynne, Don't give up, you can do it if you believe that your illness is not all the cause of what you are going through. I may not know how your feeling as I guess that you are very upset and sad that you mental illness is making you feel sad.. I wish you do not think that. I hope you show your childless in you, so you can be lifted up.