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    <title>topic Re: Want to get out of this hole in Depression</title>
    <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/want-to-get-out-of-this-hole/m-p/558702#M49298</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi amy&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I read your post, I instantly felt so deeply for you. Also &lt;EM&gt;felt&lt;/EM&gt; the words 'Snap out of it'. Grrr!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As a 52yo mum and as a wife of 20 years, I've faced a number of periods in depression since my late teens. &lt;EM&gt;Always&lt;/EM&gt; been good reason for each one of those periods. A depressing lack of energy's a major trigger. If energy's what connects us to life, you can &lt;EM&gt;feel&lt;/EM&gt; the &lt;EM&gt;dis&lt;/EM&gt;connection on such a deep level. Also depressing when your partner leaves you to feel it &lt;EM&gt;alone&lt;/EM&gt;, as opposed to helping make sense of why you're feeling it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pays to be surrounded by wonderful people. They wonder with you, when it comes to all the possible reasons for your feelings. They'd never say 'Stop over analysing'. They'd sit and analyse &lt;EM&gt;with&lt;/EM&gt; you, speeding up the process.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;'Stop over analysing everything'. Not the best thing to say to someone who's trying to analyse the &lt;EM&gt;hell&lt;/EM&gt; out of life, in order to find heaven on earth (pure joy, peace, greater drive and self understanding etc)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;'You're too &lt;STRONG&gt;sensitive&lt;/STRONG&gt;', as a criticism, is not the best thing to say to someone who holds the &lt;EM&gt;ability&lt;/EM&gt; to &lt;STRONG&gt;sense&lt;/STRONG&gt;/feel their experiences, energy levels, internal dialogue etc. &lt;EM&gt;In&lt;/EM&gt;sensitive people lack the &lt;EM&gt;ability&lt;/EM&gt; to feel on such a deep level&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;'Just get on with life'. Hmm...thanks for the detailed management plan&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;and on it goes.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;While my husband &lt;EM&gt;waits&lt;/EM&gt; for me to be happy, when I face depressing periods, took be years to figure out he doesn't help raise me to &lt;EM&gt;find&lt;/EM&gt; what brings me joy (aka leaving someone alone to &lt;EM&gt;feel&lt;/EM&gt; what down feels like). While we lead/raise our kids to feel what joy feels like, what excitement, personal growth and more &lt;EM&gt;feel&lt;/EM&gt; like, the question is 'Who raises the raiser of others?'.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;From a &lt;EM&gt;physical&lt;/EM&gt;, &lt;EM&gt;mental&lt;/EM&gt; and &lt;EM&gt;soulful&lt;/EM&gt; perspective, what do you feel the lack of energy could be about? Could it involve all 3 factors? Could new year's day could be a trigger? Excitedly declaring 'This years' going to be different' and then going on to feel &lt;EM&gt;no&lt;/EM&gt; &lt;EM&gt;difference&lt;/EM&gt; (stuckness) has a feel to it. Standing still at crossroads in the middle of nowhere, with little energy to move forward and no signpost or solid guide, has a definite feel.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2023 22:15:10 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>therising</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-02-09T22:15:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Want to get out of this hole</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/want-to-get-out-of-this-hole/m-p/558674#M49297</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I’m a Mum of 2 and wife. Ever since New Year’s Day I’ve been in such a funk and these periods come every now and then but this one feels like it’s been going a long time. I don’t feel like my anti depressants are working but it takes so long to wean off and start new ones, I have no motivation &amp;amp; get up &amp;amp; go. If it wasn’t for my children, I’m not sure if I’d be here. I can’t find any joy in life. I don’t know how to get better &amp;amp; feel like my husband doesn’t understand, he just tells me to snap out of it. I feel like I’m a shell of a human being just floating through life not actually living&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2023 08:19:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/want-to-get-out-of-this-hole/m-p/558674#M49297</guid>
      <dc:creator>amy85</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-02-09T08:19:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Want to get out of this hole</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/want-to-get-out-of-this-hole/m-p/558702#M49298</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi amy&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I read your post, I instantly felt so deeply for you. Also &lt;EM&gt;felt&lt;/EM&gt; the words 'Snap out of it'. Grrr!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As a 52yo mum and as a wife of 20 years, I've faced a number of periods in depression since my late teens. &lt;EM&gt;Always&lt;/EM&gt; been good reason for each one of those periods. A depressing lack of energy's a major trigger. If energy's what connects us to life, you can &lt;EM&gt;feel&lt;/EM&gt; the &lt;EM&gt;dis&lt;/EM&gt;connection on such a deep level. Also depressing when your partner leaves you to feel it &lt;EM&gt;alone&lt;/EM&gt;, as opposed to helping make sense of why you're feeling it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pays to be surrounded by wonderful people. They wonder with you, when it comes to all the possible reasons for your feelings. They'd never say 'Stop over analysing'. They'd sit and analyse &lt;EM&gt;with&lt;/EM&gt; you, speeding up the process.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;'Stop over analysing everything'. Not the best thing to say to someone who's trying to analyse the &lt;EM&gt;hell&lt;/EM&gt; out of life, in order to find heaven on earth (pure joy, peace, greater drive and self understanding etc)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;'You're too &lt;STRONG&gt;sensitive&lt;/STRONG&gt;', as a criticism, is not the best thing to say to someone who holds the &lt;EM&gt;ability&lt;/EM&gt; to &lt;STRONG&gt;sense&lt;/STRONG&gt;/feel their experiences, energy levels, internal dialogue etc. &lt;EM&gt;In&lt;/EM&gt;sensitive people lack the &lt;EM&gt;ability&lt;/EM&gt; to feel on such a deep level&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;'Just get on with life'. Hmm...thanks for the detailed management plan&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;and on it goes.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;While my husband &lt;EM&gt;waits&lt;/EM&gt; for me to be happy, when I face depressing periods, took be years to figure out he doesn't help raise me to &lt;EM&gt;find&lt;/EM&gt; what brings me joy (aka leaving someone alone to &lt;EM&gt;feel&lt;/EM&gt; what down feels like). While we lead/raise our kids to feel what joy feels like, what excitement, personal growth and more &lt;EM&gt;feel&lt;/EM&gt; like, the question is 'Who raises the raiser of others?'.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;From a &lt;EM&gt;physical&lt;/EM&gt;, &lt;EM&gt;mental&lt;/EM&gt; and &lt;EM&gt;soulful&lt;/EM&gt; perspective, what do you feel the lack of energy could be about? Could it involve all 3 factors? Could new year's day could be a trigger? Excitedly declaring 'This years' going to be different' and then going on to feel &lt;EM&gt;no&lt;/EM&gt; &lt;EM&gt;difference&lt;/EM&gt; (stuckness) has a feel to it. Standing still at crossroads in the middle of nowhere, with little energy to move forward and no signpost or solid guide, has a definite feel.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2023 22:15:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/want-to-get-out-of-this-hole/m-p/558702#M49298</guid>
      <dc:creator>therising</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-02-09T22:15:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Want to get out of this hole</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/want-to-get-out-of-this-hole/m-p/558717#M49300</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It is normal to question ourselves but this time you say it feels different. Maybe as you sound to be a busy mum with two children that you need some TLC. It doesn't hurt to ask for help. It is the only way we can get through problems. In early January I had a massage, it was a Christmas present from my daughter. It made me realise just how tense I've been . I don't want to wait ten+ years for another one! &amp;nbsp;We have to take care of ourselves and make this your priority, maybe you are rundown. I think too looking back remember feeling sometimes sad on NYE as we are saying goodbye to the year especially when they play the Scottish tune&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😁&lt;/span&gt; every NYE.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2023 02:13:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/want-to-get-out-of-this-hole/m-p/558717#M49300</guid>
      <dc:creator>HelloGail</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-02-10T02:13:55Z</dc:date>
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