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    <title>topic Re: l can not stand what the world is becoming in Depression</title>
    <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/l-can-not-stand-what-the-world-is-becoming/m-p/543625#M47593</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear Randomx~&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Do you mind if I say you sound stressed? I'm wondering if it is a camel's back sort of situation and some recent happening has made all your frustrations spill out.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm not going to argue with you about most of what you say, it has a fair number of points after all&amp;nbsp; but would like to mention that despite all there downsides there have been advantages. I can get a toothache fixed, read as much as I want and so much more.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You have an agile mind and can think up more that I can I'm sure&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One modern advantage is this Forum, no matter how difficulat it may be at the moment it gives people like you the chance to write reasoned and caring responses to people in need all over the country.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is no small thing&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Croix&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 11:18:22 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Croix</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-08-15T11:18:22Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Change change, update update, learn this be that, gdp's and countries becoming so inter tangled , cultures lost and as if Australia needed to lose what tiny culture it did have? The internet/computers/smart phones, l just hate what it's doing to the world, lives ,our young, just so wrong our minds and blown stress is higher than ever in history, so damn depressing and never ending. BB has changed, Ebay l use for work never endingly, every time l go to run ads l have to learn whatever latest bs changes they've made since. My trading site one of the best l'd found, they've completely ruined, it's not even customizable anymore.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;It's taken 6mth to hack my own new computer and ways to stop never ending updates - you normally can't turn of, yet they suck up your data , computers stops whenever it feels like it middle of anything fitting updates. Yeah you can at least set a time- just more bs. Not to mention important stuff just lost bc of updating.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;And BB , sorry but what on earth possessed them to do whatever they';ve done to this place, it's unusable to me now. Not to mention&amp;nbsp; 3cam band at top now using valuable screen space with nothing in it that couldn't be set on a1cm high line instead of taking up 3cm of your screen, the word counts stuffed, threads are ridiculously set out.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;The insanity of changes all these places make- out of pure boredom l'm sure, ANY of them touch anything, l've seen so many sites just ruined.&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;Thank the Gods we've at least got a new Gov now with at least some soul and undoing and bringing in sooooo many things our country's been so desperate for so long yet had been rail roaded into putting up with the last 10yrs.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;Maybe the materialism mentality with all polished up brand new everything and shallow life it's become here will find some soul again, so many things.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;So much about the world now. Gdp's,wars, competing, climate,internets and never ending new gadgets and change and updates, monstar insane mortgages,costs of living- learn this manage that cope with this get with the program, talk about "the human condition" There it all is right there.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;rx&lt;/P&gt;

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      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 10:49:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: l can not stand what the world is becoming</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear Randomx~&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Do you mind if I say you sound stressed? I'm wondering if it is a camel's back sort of situation and some recent happening has made all your frustrations spill out.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm not going to argue with you about most of what you say, it has a fair number of points after all&amp;nbsp; but would like to mention that despite all there downsides there have been advantages. I can get a toothache fixed, read as much as I want and so much more.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You have an agile mind and can think up more that I can I'm sure&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One modern advantage is this Forum, no matter how difficulat it may be at the moment it gives people like you the chance to write reasoned and caring responses to people in need all over the country.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That is no small thing&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Croix&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 11:18:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Croix</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-08-15T11:18:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: l can not stand what the world is becoming</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi croix , and thx for that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;l don't wanna discourage people that do find good in it all many do but sadly l see the big picture and outcomes, have 20yrs and where it's all going, ignorance would be so bliss .&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for asking but nope nothing out of ordinary just the typical stress all this modernism pointlessly puts us into for one and for just existing. Phones and computers alone as mentioned, stress the hell out of me. My phones 5yrs old and l'm still needing to find or make new hacks to stop the latest crap or scam , My god, last few mths l've been getting often 20 scam calls a day sometimes.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just block them they say- yeah, right. guess what- that takes 5 different clicks in different places on my phone to do properly. l've probably done all those&amp;nbsp; 2 or 300 times just in the last mth.Sometimes 8 or 10 times in a row, 3 or 4 times a day.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;l mean wth are we doing living this rubbish.? , it's maddening.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So yeah , the gadgets alone, as handy as they are in many ways ! Phones alone, gonna but the dumbest ph on the market when this one does give it up l can tell you.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The world , our country , everything going all over and so many other countries. The smartest ones imo are just existing and not getting involved in anything.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;l dunno , there's just so many things , it's just sad, yet the world seems to love it and just keeps on pushing it all and yet none of it, has even begun- could you imagine in 50yrs time from here. l feel so sad for the kids most of all.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;rx&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 13:25:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: l can not stand what the world is becoming</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello RX, I don't have any disagreement with you at all, there is so much going on at the moment, that we fear for our grandkids, just as our grandparents did for us years ago, however, the world is in such disarray with the cost of living outpricing us all, domination from countries who have ridiculous wants and even governments who change their policies because of an upcoming election.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Over 20 years BB has changed so much, people coming and going and decisions made which not everybody does agree with and I must say that neither am I too happy about the new forums, and if I'm allowed to say it does seem to be much quieter than the old forums, that's just my observation, but we don't want people to leave, we need them to ask for help.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;May be a&amp;nbsp;prototype should have been given to those who have been on the forums for a long time to get their reaction because what people are missing is 'New Threads' and My Threads' and show a list of 20 or so posts.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My heart opens to those who may have left and hope we can get them back and for those struggling with life finances I hope the pendulum changes soon.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Geoff.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Life Member.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 16:50:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi rx,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Where do I start... The ever changing World! We have been sucked up into this amazing yet frightening World. As I write to you, I received a call from a "scammer" telling me that I have had suspicious activity on my banking accounts. I answer all his questions directly and politely all the while knowing that it's a scam phone call. He ends the call by hanging up... The constant updates to online banking, government agencies etc. are supposed to keep us safer. It's absolutely frustrating that we have to deal with this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I worked in IT in the mid 80's early 90's and the dial up modem was a revolution. The online web was just about to take off and revolutionize the way we live... It is true.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I can Quote the late and great David Bowie from 1999,&amp;nbsp;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;“The potential of what the Internet is going to do to society, both good and bad, is unimaginable,”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Rx, take care and don't worry too too much just yet... We still don't have flying cars &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 03:07:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Fiatlux</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: l can not stand what the world is becoming</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks FL and Bowie, not wrong. Trying yo tone back as much as poss - or they'll let you, l just dk how we're boxed in. Bought my gf a new ph the other wk , the simplest one l could find, couldn't even get into it. She's interstate l said will l do with it she says if you can't get into it l've got no hope send it back.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;Went into my gov they say ohhhh great.,,, they're gonna update , A bloody GAIN, they just finished wrecking it now what you use to do on 1 or 2 pages is 6 or 7, surprise, when they wreck it again those will be 10 pages next.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;l just mean WHY, yaknow.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;Could go on and on about all this smart rubbish alone,,, but there's "so much more" , and what is mr money bags Elon gonna do with his AI, l dread the thought, even he says it is scary ah and if humanity doesn't use it right it'll ruin the world well, as if they'll use it right.&amp;nbsp; We'll be getting told what to do by Robots soon well, already are with computers phones and calls now and everyone keeping tabs on us.&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;l noticed lately even Jacinda - NZ pm , was os and Grand standing, just sad. One thing l'd always admired about NZ was them keeping to themselves, didn't seem to wanna compete or be mixed up with our recent pm's or involved in what they drag us into, now she's beginning to do it.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;There's just so many things and angles , this thread could go 50 pages. Even the news, watched it first time in 2wks last night, the first 25mins was well , it started with well football- of course, so important,yeppa, but then went on to all the crimes and deaths we'd had for the day for the next 20mins.&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;l just wanna dumb down so much , so badly, l don't wanna be involved in any of it any more.&amp;nbsp; l do enjoy a little pc and forum stuff , if l can shut the damn computer up, and you've gotta have a ph , but ldk how to get free of the rubbish, but l'll find away bc l'm not living like this any longer. News , things going on round the world, sorry, can't cope with it anymore.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;Just wanna live in blissful ignorance and be left alone, as minimalist as poss.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;At least this pm - those guys, aren't usually as interested in throwing us alli nto the so called world damn spotlight like the other guys..&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;Imagine , you were in IT yet at the end of the tether , just goes to show eh.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;rx&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 05:38:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_1584</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: l can not stand what the world is becoming</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Gday Geoff and thanks for that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That's sad to hear , such an important service and place for so many. l'm afraid l'll be among them , got a horizontal type screen and l'm dyslexic it's all hard enough but now, half the screen is lost with rubbish, l can't even see it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Admire the hell out of you awhile back you were doing some pc stuff, think it was win 11 or a new pc or something, l dunno how really took my hat of to you my friend.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;l've got all that hacked and blocked on this one now finally, wasted more time and stress shutting this thing up than in life itself, how crazy is that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You aren't wrong about the world and l mean l don't wanna be uncaring but for me it's just getting all too much and for my own MH and sanity , l need to start blocking it all out , there's just so much going on and increasing every day, just bloody sad.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So our GP use to worry about us eh , and here we are, reckon it's scarier than it's ever been coming up for our kids. And how are they even gonna buy a house, the most basic of basics, let alone cope with the world and life.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;rx&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 05:46:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: l can not stand what the world is becoming</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi rx&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Agree with you, the world is definitely more triggering than ever. There used to be so many simple ways of retreating or relaxing. They were so sensory based too. With a book, for example, you could see it, touch each individual page as you turned them, and simply smell how wonderful books can smell at times when you first buy them. I've trained my kids well. First thing they do when they open a new book is smell the pages. I love books so much. Then there were the drive-ins, with one never too far away. The meeting places for joy and relaxation. Sounds funny but even Mr Gelati is in a rush these days. Can recall how slowly those vans would go up and down the street, giving us enough time to harass our mum into giving us some coins for a treat. Now, I don't even try for my purse, as he's gone almost in the blink of an eye.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think it's good to have examples of people in our life who can easily return to what's simple, reminding us of how joyful simplicity can be, how joyful the old ways can be. My 17yo son loves vinyl records, loves kicking back in nature (especially the ocean), has as little to do with mobile phones as he possibly can, feels no need at all to connect to social media and actually enjoys being the 'odd one out' from most people. He's a bit of an old soul kind of guy and I love him for it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I recall someone once saying something along the lines of 'Major social shifts become inevitable for the more intolerable life becomes, the more it &lt;EM&gt;pushes&lt;/EM&gt; people to &lt;EM&gt;demand&lt;/EM&gt; change, for the better'. With so many facing depression and anxiety these days, it is so telling. When the world is tolerating and suffering through a lot of what's depressing and stressful, you can feel change on the horizon. With too many broken or unaffordable systems in place and too many overly complex or work heavy demands, I think most of us can &lt;EM&gt;feel&lt;/EM&gt; what 'intolerable' feels like. I praise those who work hard on changing things for the better as they lead us to return to what we most long for in life. Among those things...simplicity, relief, function and a greater sense of connection to life itself (where we can feel joy instead of stress).&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 08:31:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;ps , not to discourage anyone that doesn't have these things around them , even a small balcony can be turned into your own little forest or a corner of the lounge. The streets, parks , beach , so important to step away now more than ever.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;rx&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:22:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello RX, thanks for your comments, my friend.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Geoff.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Life Member.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 15:22:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>Hey everyone, 

 We hope you don't mind us popping in. We just wanted to acknowledge these concerns and let you know we are hearing them and feeding back to the team.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;
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We do keep an eye on data that helps us to know whether people are using the Forums, and it’s been pretty stable as we’ve moved onto the new platform. However, these numbers are only a small part of the picture of how the Forums are going for everyone. We're also listening to the feedback we're seeing here, even if it's not always possible for us to make changes right away based on it.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Before launch, we did a lot of research and testing with some of the Forums&amp;nbsp;community&amp;nbsp;to ensure that what we were changing is what you want and need.&amp;nbsp;We're hearing that our research and testing could've been more transparent, though, so thank you for helping us to see how we can improve.&amp;nbsp;There'll also&amp;nbsp;be more surveys upcoming, where we'd love to hear your views.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Thanks for your comments, and for consistently showing how amazing this community is. Croix - we love your comment about the impact this place can have when it's working well.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;
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We've made changes because we&amp;nbsp;want the Forums to be the best they could be for this amazing community. We’ll keep working to be as transparent&amp;nbsp;as possible as we work on reviewing and improving it. As always, we are so so grateful for your patience, and your perspectives as you feed back to us along the way.&lt;BR /&gt;
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2022 00:48:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Sorry the ps was ffollowing a reply to rising but the first part seems to have gone west but anyway,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Your son sounds like a wise old man rising , so nice to see. My d is a very deep old and earthy soul , both ex and l are very earthy and l'm very similar but there's so much of my d just in d to, it's really gorgeous. yeah books are so special l know. more than ever now. l use pc's and phones but only bc it's more practical now and l need to them for work. l went to sell my art book collection when l gave up art the oldest was 90yrs old, nothing for the uk or Europe but something for Oz. l've never finished any of them to keep them even more special but the buyer said are you sure you want to part with them , couldn't do it and kept them. She understood but sadly for her she won't find another collection like that.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But yeah nature is a gift to us, it's our medicine, and the world is only just waking up. l had lunch with the whales just today , first time l've caught them this yr, so spesh. And the cross wind and cold blew all this rubbish out of the mind.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;rx&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2022 04:02:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_1584</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: Hey everyone, We hope you don't mind us popping in. We ju...</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks Sophie.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Not an easy job l suppose , l remember the suggestion thread, enough to confuse all in the end l'd imagine,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2022 04:08:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: l can not stand what the world is becoming</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi rx&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I get how mobile phones and computers have&amp;nbsp; become a bit of a necessary evil these days, one could say. I suppose there are moments where they also give us a dose of heaven on earth. I love the ability to research so easily on my laptop. Being someone who just loves to wonder, all the things I love to wonder about are at the tip of my fingers. I love it, yet it does distract me from life at times. It also provides access to a lot of the constructive changes going on in this world. It is an amazing age we live in, so promising when I see a lot of the advances being made.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You're so blessed to witness the grace of the whales. So beautiful. I should look at going to Lakes entrance around whale season instead of always aiming for Autumn each year. Life is partly about making memories, reminders of what's beautiful, exciting and inspiring.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You're a gift to your daughter, being someone who raised her to appreciate the simple things in life. Our kids end up being so grateful for that stuff, as it tends to ground them at times when the world gets their head in a bit of a spin. Good for us too. Our kids are such great teachers, sometimes reteaching us of what we taught them, leading us be become more conscious of who we used be in so many special ways (reminding us of the stuff we need to hold onto). Personally, I remain neglectful, being so disconnected from nature. I chastise myself at times. Far more productive to do something about it rather than sitting back reprimanding myself. It's a waste of precious time, all that self reprimanding. Sometimes I think we can take on way more than we need to, then declare 'I just don't have the time to reconnect'. &lt;EM&gt;Consciously&lt;/EM&gt; making that reconnection is so important.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2022 11:40:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>therising</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: l can not stand what the world is becoming</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;tHANKS RISINg . Yeppa , that is the human condition.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;l refuse to be too busy , always have, l always make time l need my fix&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;unless it's an emergency.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thx for the nice words.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;rx&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2022 12:53:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_1584</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: l can not stand what the world is becoming</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I really struggled with the new BB update. It kept telling me I was over the character limit despite the character counter telling me I was 100 below. Ended up having to delete stuff that I thought was important.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can relate to most of what you said, and I'm also sick of it (change for the sake of change).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you do figure out how to manage the stress from all this BS you will be up for a Nobel Prize at least.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sorry if this isn't any help, I just wanted to say you're not alone feeling this way.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2022 13:24:09 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Echtis</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: l can not stand what the world is becoming</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for that Echtis.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yeah l dunno. Gadget wise, think l've finally killed of the latest round of phone spam, againnnn. so that's something. Dunno how long it'll leave me in peace again this time.&amp;nbsp; l made the boo boo of putting my number down on a supposed legit site, never do that but l had to on this one. Thankfully after blocking 100s, it's going quiet again.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My pc's hacked to the hilt to just do as it's told and nothing else, hope to keep it for yrs and yrs now bc l dread the thought of what that'll take for the next one by then. Phones 5 or 6yrs old, prob need a new one soon, dreading that to . Have a plan though gonna take the next one to a tech to get rid of everything and dumb the thing down to an antique, same with a pc in the future.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That's the thing , even living the most minimalist life poss as l do already, they still box us in , even to just pay a bill and God help us if we've gotta call one of them hey. But it's right through life now, and all over the net, our phs, the authorities, don't think people realize just how much.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;l dunno , throw it all away and go be a beach bum , or grow veggies, or move to the outback and tell no one. Brothers movibg to bali , lucky bugger.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;rx&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2022 22:22:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_1584</dc:creator>
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