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    <title>topic tough day in Depression</title>
    <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/tough-day/m-p/481143#M41226</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Pawsy&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Funerals can be upsetting no matter how well or otherwise you knew the deceased person. Not knowing any of the other mourners does make us feel out of place. Funerals can be confronting as they remind us of our own mortality. This is definitely where we need the support of others. When we are also managing our various mental illnesses, mourning a friend can hit us hard.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It's good you can write about what's happening for you. Talking with a friend is a good thing but when that's not available writing can help.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It's upsetting and scary when we fall into that spiral of despair. And of course it takes on a life of its own. I am pleased you were able to climb out of that trap as it shows you are still resilient. Recognising your friend did not have anything to give and ending the call shows your compassion. It is so very hard to ask for help then find it's not available.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Do you have any plans or activities you can go to when you get distressed? Doing something physical such as weeding the garden, can be a good way to relieve your feelings. Nothing quite like attacking a few weeds to make you feel good. Put a list of these activities on your fridge door. It removes the need to think of something to do just at the moment when the brain gets lost. Just go with the list.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I remember reading about someone who always did housework when she was in a bad place. She cleaned the same room so many times it shone. For me housework is not something I enjoy and I turn to other activities. But I hope you get the idea.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Mary&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2019 21:41:25 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>White_Rose</dc:creator>
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      <title>tough day</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/tough-day/m-p/481139#M41222</link>
      <description>i went to a funeral today. i felt out of place because i didn't know anyone. i knew the deceased person a long time ago. i left early. after i got home. i called a friend. he had his own things going on and we didnt connect very well. i cut the call short and fell into a nasty spiral. combination of thinking about the death of this person and all the time that has gone by, and feeling extremely isolated and frightened of the future. a feeling that all the years have just led me to this dark lonely place, and the future only holds worse and worse things. i feel i have failed everything and everyone and that people would prefer it if i just went away. i feel incapable of contributing anything of value at all. even though i know this is rather extreme and not objectively true, it is how i feel.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2019 10:22:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/tough-day/m-p/481139#M41222</guid>
      <dc:creator>pawsy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-10-06T10:22:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>tough day</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/tough-day/m-p/481140#M41223</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, welcome&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You sound like a caring person to attend that funeral of your friend. Then needing a shoulder to rest your sadness, not to find it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Firstly, we have to find our emotional boundaries. In the case of funerals, I have definite boundaries- I will attend a service but only enter with the crowd if asked to contribute to the service by way of addressing them. Otherwise, I will remain outside and be there to support others in their grief as they pour out. Next- I never enter cemeteries. It is sure to trigger me.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Your friend you rang- its a bit like friends not relating to mental illness really, that friend wasn't in grief mode so how could he/she be sympathetic? &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;To me there are two types of friend. The firs tis the one that when you ring and tell them you are having a bad day, they ask questions almost non stop then offer to come round or meet at a café. The second is the one you called, that fall short of filling a supportive role.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Google&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Beyondblue topic depression and sensitivity- a connection?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I hope you have picked up somewhat and care for yourself. There is phone numbers at the bottom of this page or repost here if you want to talk further.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;TonyWK&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2019 02:21:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/tough-day/m-p/481140#M41223</guid>
      <dc:creator>white knight</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-10-07T02:21:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>tough day</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/tough-day/m-p/481142#M41225</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;thank you for this reply. i found the thing you wrote about needing a shoulder to rest the sadness and not finding it  helpful. funerals are hard, arent they? even though they are often good too. this one didnt go well for me, and i fell down a hole. and noone to help me, on that afternoon anyway. your words did help me tho, thank you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;pawsy&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2019 20:58:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/tough-day/m-p/481142#M41225</guid>
      <dc:creator>pawsy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-10-08T20:58:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>tough day</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/tough-day/m-p/481143#M41226</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Pawsy&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Funerals can be upsetting no matter how well or otherwise you knew the deceased person. Not knowing any of the other mourners does make us feel out of place. Funerals can be confronting as they remind us of our own mortality. This is definitely where we need the support of others. When we are also managing our various mental illnesses, mourning a friend can hit us hard.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It's good you can write about what's happening for you. Talking with a friend is a good thing but when that's not available writing can help.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It's upsetting and scary when we fall into that spiral of despair. And of course it takes on a life of its own. I am pleased you were able to climb out of that trap as it shows you are still resilient. Recognising your friend did not have anything to give and ending the call shows your compassion. It is so very hard to ask for help then find it's not available.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Do you have any plans or activities you can go to when you get distressed? Doing something physical such as weeding the garden, can be a good way to relieve your feelings. Nothing quite like attacking a few weeds to make you feel good. Put a list of these activities on your fridge door. It removes the need to think of something to do just at the moment when the brain gets lost. Just go with the list.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I remember reading about someone who always did housework when she was in a bad place. She cleaned the same room so many times it shone. For me housework is not something I enjoy and I turn to other activities. But I hope you get the idea.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Mary&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2019 21:41:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/tough-day/m-p/481143#M41226</guid>
      <dc:creator>White_Rose</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-10-08T21:41:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>tough day</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/tough-day/m-p/481144#M41227</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Pawsy&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thankyou for replying.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Mary had some good ideas there.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Writing is a great way to express your emotions. I write poetry and that enables me to open up my poetry book of some 250 poems and browse through them. As an example I wrote this one about 25 years ago. I hope you like it.-&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;TO KISS HIS TEMPLE&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
There were some things I knew as
taboo&lt;BR /&gt;
to express my love but to
question who?&lt;BR /&gt;
to touch the pale face of my dad
back then&lt;BR /&gt;
when touching taboo...when
"men were men"&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
For boys were male and "you
cant do that"&lt;BR /&gt;
jealous of my sister and that is
that&lt;BR /&gt;
that man couldnt hug his son for
how he was seen&lt;BR /&gt;
nowadays if you hugged your son-
well, you'd be relieved.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
And so my dad the salt of the
land&lt;BR /&gt;
wouldnt touch me even by hand&lt;BR /&gt;
he knew he loved me and I him&lt;BR /&gt;
with a wink of an eye from under
his brim&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Then that day we all regret came
along&lt;BR /&gt;
where watery eyes was met by song&lt;BR /&gt;
and there he lie with an eerie
smile&lt;BR /&gt;
I be alone with him for just a
while.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
As I stroked his forehead cool to
touch&lt;BR /&gt;
I raised my head automatically as
such&lt;BR /&gt;
to kiss his temple of which I
dare&lt;BR /&gt;
I knew his mind was well aware.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Of all the kisses I missed&lt;BR /&gt;
they gathered together in just
one kiss&lt;BR /&gt;
finally as his spirit rose and
went&lt;BR /&gt;
he left his love and hugs were
spent&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I never craved again heart be
blessed&lt;BR /&gt;
that tradition of males their
love expressed&lt;BR /&gt;
a kiss on his forehead way back
then&lt;BR /&gt;
ended an era when "men were
men"....&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So in essence the one thing I always missed as a young boy was the cuddles and kisses my old fashioned but wonderful father used to give me, because those days  men didn't do that to boys. Eventually I saved them all up and gave him a kiss as he had just passed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Writing is no different, a short story of your hurt, fears or adventures. It lets it all out.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I hope you have gained some ideas of what to expect next time you have a similar event.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;TonyWK&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2019 23:24:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/tough-day/m-p/481144#M41227</guid>
      <dc:creator>white knight</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-10-08T23:24:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>tough day</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/tough-day/m-p/481145#M41228</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You can also write about happy things&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;PINKY THE
PIG&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Pinky the pig began to cry&lt;BR /&gt;
Pinky didn’t have a curly tail&lt;BR /&gt;
Like the others in the sty&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
They laughed aloud the other piggies&lt;BR /&gt;
While rolling in the dirt&lt;BR /&gt;
They didn’t think for a moment &lt;BR /&gt;
-the level of their hurt&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Then one day the other piggies &lt;BR /&gt;
Fell into deep mud- such stink!!&lt;BR /&gt;
All of them were stuck&lt;BR /&gt;
Except pointy pinky pink&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Then with a smile &lt;BR /&gt;
and a wagging straight tail&lt;BR /&gt;
pinky pointed at them with glee&lt;BR /&gt;
pinky pulled them all to safety&lt;BR /&gt;
finally they were free&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
So legend has it that pinky was heroic&lt;BR /&gt;
And the other piggies began to cry&lt;BR /&gt;
They all wished they had a pointy tail&lt;BR /&gt;
And were special in the sty…&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;LITTLE FEATHER&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Little feather left and right&lt;BR /&gt;
As you fall slowly in the night&lt;BR /&gt;
Coming from a nest above&lt;BR /&gt;
A bed of twigs and a world of love&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Down it falls on the ground&lt;BR /&gt;
A gust of wind to toss it around&lt;BR /&gt;
Then as the sun rose to dry it out&lt;BR /&gt;
The lighter it was to get out and
about&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Then along came a bird full of love&lt;BR /&gt;
To take little feather to her nest
above&lt;BR /&gt;
Where little feather was put in a
nest&lt;BR /&gt;
To warm the heart where baby bird
rests…&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;BOX OF TOYS&lt;BR /&gt;
Not a sound as they dozed, two little
girls asleep&lt;BR /&gt;
First the little teddy bears would
open their eyes for a peek&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
When it was all clear the fairies
drifted down&lt;BR /&gt;
To touch the toys on their heads, the
animals and clowns&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
The soldiers marched up and down to
front each face to face&lt;BR /&gt;
Followed by a hug of love…a
meaningful embrace&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
The dolls poked their faces up from
beneath the little girls beds&lt;BR /&gt;
To boss the little teddy bears and
make sure they were fed&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Then the clowns drove the toy trucks
and Barbie’s did their hair&lt;BR /&gt;
It all looked quite a miracle but the
children unaware&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Finally as morning came it stopped
this night of joy&lt;BR /&gt;
Instantly they all went back- to
being just a toy&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
As the girls opened their eyes to the
still of quiet and day&lt;BR /&gt;
They imagined that box of toys were
alive with love and play&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;TonyWK&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2019 23:30:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/tough-day/m-p/481145#M41228</guid>
      <dc:creator>white knight</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-10-08T23:30:19Z</dc:date>
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