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    <title>topic Getting worse in Depression</title>
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    <description>Hi Wombat &amp;amp; Geoff&lt;BR /&gt;
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Glad to hear you have reasons to stay around. Doesn't make it any easier though does it living in pain&lt;BR /&gt;
You sure do have a lot to deal with, sorry to hear.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I'm also BP type 1 &amp;amp; moreso type 2 now. &lt;BR /&gt;
Wondering because you said you're feeling that you're over the breakup (sorry for your pain there too) if do you think ? BP depression, do you have the mania or only depression with BP? though I can't speak for everyone but usually after recovery it passes, did it for you before this? Recently I had depression but not the mega deep BP one but bad enough for an extended period of time but eventually it went too &lt;BR /&gt;
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I'm in process &amp;amp; definately making headway of working through BP, over time I got the mania down from very high yum type 1 to now moreso type 2 (well maybe in between on average). I'm using emotional control method. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Agree with Geoff, being on DSP is nothing to be ashamed of as he said there's a reason you're on it &amp;amp; until you're able to get through the depression which &lt;EM&gt;is&lt;/EM&gt; achievable, with hard work yes but it's hard work &amp;amp; painful where you are too, many have lifted the Black cloud &amp;amp; happy again so I think work would be very difficult for you &amp;amp; probs add to stress which you certainly don't need anymore of.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Hard when you're having so much change with professional help, hoping the new psychs work out for you, be good to know how you go &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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Talk anytime here, this is your thread your space. &lt;BR /&gt;
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A couple of threads that you might get something from &lt;BR /&gt;
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Understanding depression...to beat it? (In progress) &lt;BR /&gt;
Suicide ...why not? &lt;BR /&gt;
There are also a great deal of helpful threads around if you're interested in which sometimes it might be a simple sentence said that makes a difference.&lt;BR /&gt;
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It won't necessarily stay this way Wombat &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2017 21:47:13 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>demonblaster</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-11-26T21:47:13Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/getting-worse/m-p/359250#M32958</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;i have bipolar, ADHD (and possibly Aspergers), but since a relationship break up two and a half years ago I've been depressed. I think for the most part I am over the relationship break up and betrayal now. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;The depression overwhelms me. The reason I stay alive is for my family and friends. I feel I am dragging down my family and friends with my sadness.  I am lucky a lot of people love me. I live with my parents who are retired. I have no job, am on DSP, and I am ashamed of that. Most days I stay in bed till the afternoon then drag myself out of bed to watch tv with my parents. I know life can't continue like this but I am not sure what else to do. I am stuck. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;I have just started seeing a new psychiatrist (4 in two and a half years one died, one quit, one didn't understand) and I am going to change my psychologist this week because the last one could only see me once every two months.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; The last six days I haven't left the house except to feed my neighbours pets while they were away. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for reading&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:31:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Sadwombat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-26T18:31:49Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/getting-worse/m-p/359251#M32959</link>
      <description>hello Sadwombat, lovely to hear from you, and first of all don't be ashamed to be on DSP, there was a reason why this happened, I'm also on DSP and have been for a long time.&lt;BR /&gt;
It's probably best at the moment you're staying with your parents because if you were all by yourself it would most likely be worse for you.&lt;BR /&gt;
It is very frustrating when you any of your psych's both types haven't been able to help you, but I'd like you to google this, there are places and sites for you to also contact, places for adults to get help with depression'.&lt;BR /&gt;
Please get back to us it would be great to hear back from you. Geoff.&lt;BR /&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2017 19:13:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>geoff</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-26T19:13:34Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Hi Wombat &amp;amp; Geoff&lt;BR /&gt;
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Glad to hear you have reasons to stay around. Doesn't make it any easier though does it living in pain&lt;BR /&gt;
You sure do have a lot to deal with, sorry to hear.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I'm also BP type 1 &amp;amp; moreso type 2 now. &lt;BR /&gt;
Wondering because you said you're feeling that you're over the breakup (sorry for your pain there too) if do you think ? BP depression, do you have the mania or only depression with BP? though I can't speak for everyone but usually after recovery it passes, did it for you before this? Recently I had depression but not the mega deep BP one but bad enough for an extended period of time but eventually it went too &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I'm in process &amp;amp; definately making headway of working through BP, over time I got the mania down from very high yum type 1 to now moreso type 2 (well maybe in between on average). I'm using emotional control method. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Agree with Geoff, being on DSP is nothing to be ashamed of as he said there's a reason you're on it &amp;amp; until you're able to get through the depression which &lt;EM&gt;is&lt;/EM&gt; achievable, with hard work yes but it's hard work &amp;amp; painful where you are too, many have lifted the Black cloud &amp;amp; happy again so I think work would be very difficult for you &amp;amp; probs add to stress which you certainly don't need anymore of.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Hard when you're having so much change with professional help, hoping the new psychs work out for you, be good to know how you go &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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Talk anytime here, this is your thread your space. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
A couple of threads that you might get something from &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Understanding depression...to beat it? (In progress) &lt;BR /&gt;
Suicide ...why not? &lt;BR /&gt;
There are also a great deal of helpful threads around if you're interested in which sometimes it might be a simple sentence said that makes a difference.&lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;BR /&gt;
It won't necessarily stay this way Wombat &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2017 21:47:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>demonblaster</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you Geoff and Demonblaster, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;i have had two episodes of mania in my life. Along time ago I was hospitalised for seven weeks in a public psych ward. I had psychosis at that time and diagnosed with type 1. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This is the worst depression of my life. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am going to my GP today she will be giving me scripts for new pills as per my new psychiatrists request. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you both for being kind. I'll keep this thread up to date. &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2017 02:07:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Sadwombat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-27T02:07:01Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello all&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sadwombat- I like your name. I have just found your thread.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks  for sharing  your story with honesty.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have lived with bipolar for many years .I have realised I must be aware of my illness and what are the signs before I get sick.THis does not always work.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for keeping us updated .Ihope yournew pyschiatrist can help.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You are brave and strong.You are dealing with a lot.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You may want to look at some other threads.There is a thread This bipolar life, which you are welcome to visit.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Leah &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2017 06:40:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>quirkywords</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-27T06:40:35Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Combat just letting you know still here &amp;amp; as you can see we're listening &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Writing can although your energy will be depleted be very therapeutic if you'd like to talk about what you're feeling like is it making you feel worthless, no energy, not liking yourself etc. In your own time you need to get everything else sorted ☺&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This also can help identify areas to work on when you're feeling better &amp;amp; YOU WILL in time.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;BP deep unbearable pain eventually passes, hope that can be some light&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So sorry you're in so deep &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;All best with new meds (( big warm hugs )) if you want them &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hey Quirky ☺&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 20:35:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you all for being so kind.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;the new meds are making me feel nousious and lathargic for the last few days. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I see a new psychologist on the 22/12/2017. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I feel worthless, tired, bored with everything. I have no self-esteem left. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:02:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Sadwombat</dc:creator>
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      <description>hello Sadwombat, I'm still here and watching your post so can I ask how you got on with this new psychologist, it may take time to like them, but &lt;G class="gr_ gr_114 gr-alert gr_gramm gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim Punctuation only-ins replaceWithoutSep" id="114" data-gr-id="114"&gt;usually&lt;/G&gt; a couple of visits will let you know if there is a connection. Geoff.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2017 16:24:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>geoff</dc:creator>
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      <description>You're welcome Sad &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt; Hi all &lt;BR /&gt;
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Daghh lost post, Quote: "&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;I feel worthless, tired, bored with everything. I have no self-esteem left.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;"&lt;BR /&gt;
This is the nature of the beast Sad, it's sole purpose is to pull us down in every way. &lt;BR /&gt;
Gold said &lt;SPAN style="font-family: FFDINWeb, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400;"&gt;here&lt;/SPAN&gt; on bb "&lt;STRONG&gt;we don't have to believe it&lt;/STRONG&gt;" how true, our stength with depression gets buried but it's still there, babysteps can bring it back up, then when we're stronger to visit our pain &amp;amp; work through it if it can be or come to an acceptance, leaving it in the past &amp;amp; moving forward. Easier said than done &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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Do you know anything specifically that's pulling you down. Does your mind constantly repeat same things? or the Blackness going on without reason. If there is repetitive specifics, when you're stronger maybe could address them but later I suggest &lt;BR /&gt;
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To get through this part of the pain you're experiencing, I feel you're doing the right thing that goes against every fibre in your being to get out of bed and watch TV with your loving by the sounds parents, great asset &lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;STRONG&gt;Distraction&lt;/STRONG&gt; gives the mind temporary reprieve of pain Sad, I think for most we can only have one thought at a time. Doesn't have to be biggies, something like having a pen &amp;amp; paper in hand, just let the mind lead your pen, not too much thought but enough to focus on what you're doing &lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;STRONG&gt;Movement&lt;/STRONG&gt;, not much, once in one of my deep Blacks forced myself to go to spare room for something, on the way was looking around and watching where I was going, on returning &amp;amp; it was slow process, deep exhaustion realised I felt slightly lifted. Better than how it was&lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;STRONG&gt;Pushing through&lt;/STRONG&gt;  is mammoth but necessary, anything to break the train of thought. When we think about how we feel emotions kick in making us feel worse. This is where distraction comes in, the thoughts will come we can't stop them they're fast so at that point you could also try that's not hard to look around at anything &amp;amp; everything (Starwolf xx) you can either think about the couch, TV, curtains, carpet etc or just continue looking around, this defers furthur thought of the pain temporarily. Every little's a big&lt;BR /&gt;
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If this is BP depression Sad, it eventually when you catch up on sleep (exhaustion) will pass. &lt;BR /&gt;
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All best with new psych &amp;amp; meds hoping will settle in time with side affects.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2017 22:20:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>demonblaster</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi everyone, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;i am feeling good for the first time in two years.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; My new meds appear to be working (And I can cope with the mild nausia) and I spent a beautiful day with a friend yesterday. &lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;Tonight I am going out with friends for dinner. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;I also made a big decision to attend Xmas day with my family, but not Boxing Day. My mother has tried to manipulate me into going, but I am 36. My extended family love me, but can be very judgemental. They ask questions like 'What are you doing with your life?'. So Boxing Day I am spending with two friends who have nothing to do. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;Somehow I am staying in the present. Most of my sadness is about the past or the future. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;I can only hope I still feel like this come Xmas. I have almost completed my Xmas shopping. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;I see my GP tomorrow. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;Waiting to see the new psychologist is hard though I feel like I need help to be able to get on with my life in the new year. I'd like to do some volunteering or study. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;Thank you all &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:50:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>VERY happy to hear this Sad, wow can call you Happywombat now &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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Good on you&lt;BR /&gt;
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Here's yours if ever you want to talk &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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Happy Xmas&lt;G class="gr_ gr_132 gr-alert gr_tiny gr_gramm gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim Punctuation replaceWithoutSep" id="132" data-gr-id="132"&gt;,&lt;/G&gt; sounds like it will be</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2017 04:59:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>demonblaster</dc:creator>
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