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Bipolar- how do you know when a swing is coming?

JillCameTumbling — Wed, 02 Aug 2017 05:36:20 GMT

I'm looking for shared experiences from other ppl living with bipolar (one or two)-

Most of the time I look for signs my mood is sinking, and I think I'm getting pretty good at managing it before I get really depressed. Then sometimes I feel I'm in a weird space and I wonder if this is the precursor to a coming high.

Im on mood stabilising medication so haven't reached a full-blown mania episode but I sometimes these mild "highs" do make me feel impulsive and risky. I want to go out dancing and drinking with friends. I get more energy to do things around the house. My sleep changes a little but not in the way I've experienced in hypomania.

C anyone share what it feels like for them before mania or is it just a "normal" strange mood? I feel like I don't want to worry my family or doctors unnecessarily. I also don't want to need to increase my meds unless I really have to.

Bipolar- how do you know when a swing is coming?

white knight — Wed, 02 Aug 2017 11:22:48 GMT

Hi Jill, welcome

I dont get warning signs, however, I do know that say I have two things worrying me then I'm ultra careful to make sure I dont allow a third problem to topple me over.

These added problems could be minor. Like a warning notice of a late bill.

To alleviate this my wife reorganised our bills to go direct debit. That eliminated a trigger. If you can identify triggers it helps a lot. Ive also learned to give my wife watnings. Driving in traffic can load me up, then say my phone rang and I wondeted who it was...then we arrive at a shopping centre and cant find a park. My wife begins to talk about her ill mum. I say tactfully "darl, I'm overloaded, sorry can we talk about this at a cafe". All good.

We can go into meds much here but I'm on the mood stabilisers. I've adjusted the dise via my GP twice in 8 years. On both occasions i had them initially raised in dosage and realised soon aftwr it was the opposite of what I should have had. So get approval to tweek the dosage to get it just right.

Good sleep is essential. If you suspect you have any sleep apnea seek out a sleep study. Very important.

The highs you describe i used to have but were suppressed after commencing some anti depressants very low dose.

Chat with your dr about that.

Tony WK

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geoff — Wed, 02 Aug 2017 20:37:35 GMT

hello Jill, I don't have BP, but you could extend this to when do we know depression is going to come back and put us back into a state of relapse, well if something awful has happened or we lose a loved one then the changes of falling back into depression is pretty much guaranteed.
Other times it's impossible to know unless you have triggered something that you know will cause depression and haven't been able to avoid, that's almost a certainty.
For me to move residence is sure to bring me back into having a relapse, it's happened three times and only until I'm settled in it does go away, but I have to change address, contact utilities, phone company, so that's an enormous amount of work plus I have to get used to new neighbours, such a heavy workload if you're single and suffering from depression. Geoff.

Bipolar- how do you know when a swing is coming?

JillCameTumbling — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 02:20:59 GMT

Thanks guys

its good to hear others' experiences.

I think I'm more unfamiliar with how mania can come on and what other people have experienced as symptoms of an oncoming high.

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destiny — Sun, 06 Aug 2017 00:29:56 GMT

Hey there,

I have rapid cycling bipolar. I can usually tell when a high is coming on. I tend to start to get a little giddy and can feel it winding up, I start to get a little more energetic and louder and I start getting a bit reckless with money. My highs make me feel great, and my self confidence starts to increase. Social situations is where I notice it the most and I can just feel it starting, unfortunately for me this also mean my patience with people is cut very short and I start getting a little narky with the people around me. This all usually happens in the lead up. My manic high turns me into some energetic know it all jerk. I haven't had a full blown manic episode in a long time now which is great.

The lows can sometimes be a little harder, but I understand what you mean by a weird space, not quite low but not high. A sort blank space and a general slowing down or flat feeling. I'm also on meds to stop mania.

My lows tend to contain a fair amount of anger so I usually take some time to myself to try to get my head back into a good space.

I hope this helps.

Good luck on your journey

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white knight — Sun, 06 Aug 2017 04:37:57 GMT

Hi Destiny

Ive got bipolar2. Just wanted to say how great a description you just gave. Well done.

Tony WK

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Airies — Sun, 06 Aug 2017 09:39:12 GMT

Hi Jill,

BP1 here. Counselling, treatment, right meds and time have made a difference for me. I'm on a variety of meds, progressively ceased my Prns of late and it's working. Not so bombed out the following day. I'm pretty stable @ the moment.... I'd love to be medication free but that would be silly and irresponsible of me.Excercise and diet changes have made a difference.im emotionally numb . Short term memory not flash, any stress or trying to remember something to memory even from a conversation 5 min ago is impossible. Long term memory is not good either. Regardless, I'm a better person to be around, extremelly grateful to be here. It's a journey, don't know what highs and lows are ahead but know until my parting breath it will be a challenge,

cheers LM

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white knight — Mon, 07 Aug 2017 22:45:20 GMT

Hi Airies

well said. You are realistic, you aacknowledge your progress and accept you have lifelong challenges.

Thats a better place to be than where you were.

Tony WK

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demonblaster — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 01:36:12 GMT

Hi Jill & all 🙂

have to choof soon but BBl just adding this to my threads 🙂

Bipolar- how do you know when a swing is coming?

demonblaster — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 10:21:00 GMT

Hey 🙂

Haven't read replies yet but want to
I use for yrs to have 2/3 nights before birdies fart waking wide up taking either side of an hr getting back to sleep.

Other times, varying intensity couple days depression before, extreme on downs

Its changing for me, now the suckers sneak up more so not much warning but ok cause when ya feel good, really good lol might take next day to realise even when the energy's peaking. Gold. We might all have that ultimate potential in us.

Low mood before, restless often wanna be doing something, mind gets a bit yeah might be weird like you're saying Jill, goes to a different space doesn't it, bit neutral maybe but wanting to go somewhere.

It feeds of lack of sleep, exhausting/deeply tiring. I've had 3 short manias in this cycle, bliss bombs but the rest God, frightening how low ya go.

Good on you talking and asking, way to learn and work through, good people here, lot wanting to help and support. Understanding, safe enviroment, excellent site

Cyaz later

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demonblaster — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 18:40:04 GMT

Im 1 & 2 but moreso type 2 these days, the manias are still magic but phew took weeks to recover esp sleep.

More than rapid cycler, 8/10 a yr, read but can't remember terminology but goes something like ultra rapid, super rapid etc but with meditation suprisingly I managed to do it in the fast brain in type 1 which was mammoth, concentrations always been an issue let alone in mania to bring down the highs which of course who doesn't want but they're still beeeeauuuutifullll in type 2.

Read replies, yeah stimulation can bring them on, excercise (I ease into always aware not to overdo) coffee I limit to 3 max any day, change as Geoff said like moving or other stuff that stimulates.
People stimulate me, extrovert so that can be enough

I've also recently realised apart from as Doc said yesterday part of the reason I had 3 manias (short ones) was due to unbearable pain for a mth (pinched nerve in neck) then backing off but intermittent another 2 wks, opiods & sleep was near non existent over that time but not disagreeing that that would have contributed but realised to avoid going down in tiredness & mania symptoms too I'm more talky am anyway but pulling up so could have contributed too.

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Smokey40 — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:49:38 GMT

Aires,

Your comment "It's a journey, don't know what highs and lows are ahead but know until my parting breath it will be a challenge". Gives me the strength to focus on the long term.

My psychiatrist, psychologist and Dr of 30 years are working hard to help me through a new low (Separation of my wife, Redundancy, Benign brain tumour surgery, sister in laws death, medication challenges... all within the last two years)

The 'long term' reminds me of my past 40 years ago and my cat Smokey who helped me through my first deep low, I have a new cat coming to help me through this low. And I know the medical support continuously improves...

Andrew

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demonblaster — Sat, 19 Aug 2017 00:46:42 GMT

You're going through a lot Smokey

All best, so glad you have a loving cat to help you through too 🙂