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Depression, how to fight it

white knight — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:23:30 GMT

So you're fed up?. You might have had depression for years. Sometimes you want to give up right?. We all know the feeling.

But other times we are functioning OK, good even and we don't know why. That means it has an underlying lack of predictability to it. The mental health professionals know a lot but there are huge gaps in overall knowledge about depression. There is lack of commonality or we'd all read the same book to read up about ourselves.

So, that moment you are fed up...you decide to "fight it". Whatever it takes. You push yourself really hard. But I suggest, based on what I've read and subsequently my own practicing of such readings, it isn't the way to go. Ever shadow boxed? You'll never win against an invisable opponent!

But you might be able to corral it, corner it so you can live life better, not ideal perhaps but limiting the effects on depression should be your aim.

The moment I read an article about 3 years ago that said " one should allow depressive cycles to run their course not try to hurry up the process" I knew I'd been on the wrong track. Over many years I'd had many mental challenges, family, workplace discrimination etc and I fought the maximum within my power so I thought "I can lick this"... No I couldn't and such daily determination might be commendable but that doesn't mean its effective.

It takes more wisdom. Unfortunately some mental illnesses have symptoms that result in fast thoughts and actions that hide our wisdom. With effective medication and the right dosage our thought processes often slow down and that, in my case resulted in making wiser decisions. The intelligence was always there albeit with a manic blanket covering.

Be real. If you are bed ridden then unless you wet the bed you must attend the toilet right? Logical. So you can also rise from bed to greet your carer after a hard days work. At times prepare a brew. Never extend your symptoms. It won't help you and your carer doesn't deserve it.

Spiritual peace. For me it was a crutial element in my recovery. I found Maharaji- and his videos " sunset" and "the perfect instrument" google them. It isn't religion, its a place you can go that provides peace. In time you'll listen daily because of his logic.

Measured determination works. But nothing works better in my opinion as does

Proper diagnosis

Appropriate medication

Best dosage

Letting cycles run their course

Being realistic

Relaxation

And not wasting effort striking the shadow boxer.

Tony WK

Depression, how to fight it

leelee1994 — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:46:48 GMT

So sorry very first time on this sight just looking for insight surport and people to talk to at any time have just about hit rock bottom here cant do it no more have almost lost everything in my life due to how i am feeling lately cant do it just looking for helpful way to bring myself back to at least look at the bright side of most days and from what i have res so far this looks like a great place to start

Depression, how to fight it

159357 — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:58:27 GMT

i've been told many times to just cry. Due to hormones or something it's meant to help.

(only if u need to).

And yes, this website is very good

Depression, how to fight it

white knight — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:19:36 GMT

Hi leelee, welcome

Yes its a great place for us sufferers of MI.

Read, post, read some more. Knowledge is wisdom, wisdom is a drain for the pain.

Be positive. Try this

Google: Topic: be radical- beyondblue

Topic: suicidal? It isn't all your fault- beyondblue

Two of so many threads here.

Tony WK

Depression, how to fight it

leelee1994 — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:41:13 GMT

Thankyou i have red so many things on this sight so far have writen down quite a few things to see if anything is going to help me out really looking at changing my life aroumd for the better

Depression, how to fight it

DV_Arjay — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:58:19 GMT

I reckon remove Realistic
Why
Because thats what triggers most people into depression
By thinking realistically you see things in chances
Therefore its a gamble
most people think its a 50/50 chance of it being a good or bad outcome depending on the situation
Ofcourse multiple endings determined by the person. there can be an infinite amount of chances of something going wrong or right
Realism is practically, justifying your surroundings and outcomes of a particular situation.

Thats just what I reckon
Could be wrong
But I think ive thought Realism through quite a lot to determine this.

Depression, how to fight it

white knight — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:53:28 GMT

That's a good attitude. The need to change led me to the "be radical" thread.

Tony WK

Depression, how to fight it

leelee1994 — Sat, 31 Dec 2016 03:33:18 GMT

So thinking relisticly when u have almost everything you could ask for but still feel the world is against you your beter off just thinkin about what you have and what more could come of what you already have by thinking positive and changing the hole out look on it to the point where the world isnt what makes you you but what you have in life and been real about whats important like family friends fun life its self where i hit rock bottem at just them little moments where asking a question and getting no answer gets me down so thinking so would the best question to ask really is to ask yourself is the question you wanna ask really worth the time at all maybe i shouldnt ask as the answer may not be what i want its going to get me down maybe find another topic to talk about its not worth the darkness

Depression, how to fight it

leelee1994 — Sat, 31 Dec 2016 03:53:47 GMT

Crying helps sometimes but other times it makes things worse cause if your like me you just keep running things threw your head over and over again and you just fall so much deaper into that dark hole with no way out but for others it may help depending on the state of mind well that what i think anyways

Depression, how to fight it

white knight — Sat, 31 Dec 2016 09:37:07 GMT

Hi DV arjay

Thanks for your input

Many people suffer anxiety pre depression. With anxiety we easily form unrealistic thoughts. In fact I credit my therapist 30 years ago that kept reminding me..."are you being realistic".

This was a time when I had panic attacks and the like through a workplace incident. I was on workers comp and had thoughts my boss would visit my home, that I'd be vindicated, that some saviour would appear and so on.

My depression worsened. To discard unrealistic fantasies was a major positive for me.

However, for the first time someone has given me reason to not be so calculating about realism. That it can place you in a thought pattern not compatible with some in depression.

Thankyou. These alternative ideas ...brainstorming, is a great way of learning.

Ive learned from you that thinking realistically can place a depressed person to feel challenged in a way they might not be capable of in their state of mind.

Tony WK

Depression, how to fight it

DV_Arjay — Sun, 01 Jan 2017 10:15:58 GMT

Cheers mate
Feels good, adding that in and you reacting that way.
Happy new year WK