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    <title>topic Black Dog. in Depression</title>
    <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193990#M26688</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey V, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;R U OK?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here for you anytime you need to vent about the confusion...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;MuchLove&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2016 13:51:08 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SourceShield</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-11-14T13:51:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Black Dog.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193985#M26683</link>
      <description>Hi guys,&lt;BR /&gt;
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I had a breakthrough moment just now that I'd like to share with you; sitting on my swing under the shade of my almond tree.&lt;EM&gt; &lt;/EM&gt;You see, I've never really conformed to many things. Actually, it's more of a battle to try and conform - I see things differently. I have never really fit or gelled with a majority of social circles (probably all of them, truth be told) - forever the outsider looking in: Why then, is it so difficult for me to follow the same pathway of thinking that most people do, especially now with the dark times I've had/am fighting to overcome? &lt;BR /&gt;
So I reflected on that question.. &lt;BR /&gt;
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I came up with this..&lt;BR /&gt;
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Until recently, I had thought that there were only two types of mental illness that affected me; depression and anxiety. So when I have read posts expounding on and pin pointing mental illness; major depression, bipolar disorder, cyclothymic and dysthymic disorders, and BPD (borderline personality disorder), social anxiety, generalised anxiety disorder (GAD) - it would trigger an emotive reaction. Acceptance has been a big issue with me from the onset. I couldn't get my head around the clinical terms. I understand the reasoning behind why they are used and I understand some people take comfort in that. I don't want to. &lt;BR /&gt;
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So in light of this, I am re-discovering not only who I am, but WHY I am who I am. Essentially, I don't do what most people do, so I asked myself; why label myself with clinical names? I'm going to fight it anyways so I asked myself 3 questions: &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;What way or thinking path can I take on board that will allow me to accept what I have? How can I cope with having it? and how can I overcome it?&lt;/EM&gt; &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;EM&gt;"Avoiding suicidal thoughts or intent", &lt;/EM&gt;is a thread in here and Tony WK made reference to 'The Black Dog'; never heard of it before so I researched it. The penny dropped. At this point in my journey animals are my solace; they help me with being mindful; they help calm me - one of them is my dog. &lt;BR /&gt;
I made the correlation. &lt;BR /&gt;
Being labeled in clinical terms distress me - I can't afford to be stressed right now. &lt;BR /&gt;
I can identify with animals; the black dog, whilst a metaphor for what I suffer - is still an animal. So, black dog it is. Acceptance. This was big for me.&lt;BR /&gt;
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When I now perceive the black dog lurking near me, trying to snap at my heels; I'm going to tell myself -&lt;EM&gt;it's just a dog&lt;/EM&gt;. I refuse to give it the power to become something greater than what it is and I don't care what it takes; I'll make the bastard heel.&lt;BR /&gt;
V.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2016 06:50:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193985#M26683</guid>
      <dc:creator>V17</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-04T06:50:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Black Dog.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193986#M26684</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi V17&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Really sorry for the mega delay in you receiving a response....&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You and I appear to have a lot in common. I think there is an excess in 'labels' being applied to various forms of the same illness. I dont blame you for finding them a trigger.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ive had depression since 1996 and the black dog comes and goes. True and calm acceptance of the black dog is a lot easier than fighting it. Fighting it can be exhausting and sometimes exacerbate the illness (or anxiety) itself.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;True and calm acceptance takes a lot of practice and usually requires the help of a counsellor for us to bounce off on a regular basis to have a a greater effect.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Just for myself I found the use of AD's a huge bonus as they have provided me with a platform on which I could start to 'accept' the depression. They are not a fix all but the do take away those bad lows.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Try giving the black dog a pat...Depression loses its legs with calm and true acceptance &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Great to have a chat V17. Despite the long delay in responding I hope you can stick around.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;my kind thoughts for you&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Paul x&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2016 22:47:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193986#M26684</guid>
      <dc:creator>blondguy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-06T22:47:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Black Dog.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193987#M26685</link>
      <description>Hey Paul,&lt;BR /&gt;
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I was so sure I responded to your post yesterday but my memory these days is next to non-existent; I must have been distracted and then cleared my tabs. &lt;BR /&gt;
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The thing is though, today I do not have the fight in me, so, reading your reply again has been perfectly timed. Sometimes a delay proves to be necessary.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I think I will take the gentle approach and give him a pat - I really needed to hear this at this time.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Everything happens for a reason huh; we just gotta learn to see it as a positive and this has.&lt;BR /&gt;
Thank you.&lt;BR /&gt;
V. x&lt;BR /&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 03:00:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193987#M26685</guid>
      <dc:creator>V17</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-08T03:00:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Black Dog.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193988#M26686</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi V17&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;No worries at all. I was on your other thread yesterday just letting you know this one slipped through without a reply&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You are spot on, things happen for a reason and unfortunately depression is one of them. I treat it as a physical disability not a mental one.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;'Invisible Crutches'&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; my kind thoughts for you&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Paulx&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2016 23:19:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193988#M26686</guid>
      <dc:creator>blondguy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-08T23:19:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Black Dog.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193989#M26687</link>
      <description>Oh. My. Gosh. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Who was I kidding!!?? &lt;BR /&gt;
Tell the bastard to heel, I said.&lt;BR /&gt;
Just a dog, I said.&lt;BR /&gt;
Refuse to give it power, I said.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I'm incredibly confused.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2016 13:21:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193989#M26687</guid>
      <dc:creator>V17</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-14T13:21:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Black Dog.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193990#M26688</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey V, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;R U OK?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here for you anytime you need to vent about the confusion...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;MuchLove&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2016 13:51:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193990#M26688</guid>
      <dc:creator>SourceShield</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-14T13:51:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Black Dog.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193991#M26689</link>
      <description>Hey Mister&lt;BR /&gt;
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No; not really. I'm finding it really difficult to gather my thoughts and voice them. I'm second guessing every thought and it's really hard to convey what I am feeling because I don't really know??&lt;BR /&gt;
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Okay.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Witnessed a car accident 5-6 weeks ago. Had to make a statement today. Little bit nervous but okay. Made statement came home with mind running. Calmed down with acting on the stuff I have learned. Cool.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Tonight.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Son, two nephews and two of son's friend did silly thing - nothing 'major' but stupid and loud - whole neighborhood heard. Son wouldn't listen to what I expressed and when I told him to get out of the car he refused and they drove off laughing. I couldn't do anything - no control, see. So, emotions began to overtake. Managed to calm down. Cool. Son came back to pick up some clothes and I couldn't speak. Words just would not come. Like...blank. But inside my head was another story. He said he loved me and I said I loved him too the same thing and he left. I sat there after just..blank. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Then..&lt;BR /&gt;
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Ex partner rings up. Okay. I answered. Talked about trivial stuff about when he would drop off car etc. I ended it just over a week ago. He left. Accepted it and left. He asked if I was okay and it broke me and I couldn't stifle the tears. Then I asked - silly me - why didn't he 'fight' for me and he said he still might. That comment stopped the tears. Might? I said I have to go. He called my baby. I'm just blank. V.&lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2016 14:24:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>V17</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-14T14:24:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Black Dog.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193992#M26690</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey Sweetheart,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Well, firstly, you deserve a medal. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thats a full-on cocktail of differing tensions, emotions, feelings, events and experiences going on there...no wonder you're blink'n emotionally CONFUSED at the moment!. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Who wouldn't be?. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You've done really well to put words to how you feel, and give a 'voice' to your feelings, even if those feelings are all over the shop. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Its important. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As we learn to express in healthier ways...even these crapola moments start to morph into important lessons for us!. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Clarity comes from being in the dark for a while, and finding our own 'way out' from the shadows. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In truth, my friend, I know that at the moment this seems like WTF with it all happening, but heres what I reckon...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;...just my humble opinion...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But, I believe that Life/God/The Universe/Source..IO in my native language - Te Reo Maori. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Source never ever sends us things that we cant handle. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;We are never ever presented with situations that we arent strong enough to cope with. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But, in that moment...we FEEL so weak, and that we cant cope etc etc etc...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So, these 'tests' are actually a way for you to put into practice what you are learning.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And, from the outside looking in...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I know you may not see it this way, but...You have done SO well, considering.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Okay?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Seriously.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Traumatic car crash experience - Got through that, even if you were a bit nervy. You did what you had to, and now thats sorted --- tick!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Son, nephews and mates being complete tools.You losing it for a bit BUT managing to get yourself back to CALM. Thats big.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Remember that we all deal with STRESS in different ways. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And, with what you have experienced in life...these moments still shake you. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thats normal and natural based on what you have lived through. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You're a champion. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;THEN...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Relationship-mucky-feeling stuff, as well???&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;To me, just MY opinion...thats all. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;MIGHT - ISNT GOOD ENOUGH.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Your feelings for him are still fresh but dont let him play games with your heart. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If there are still genuine feelings there, you must follow through...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;...love is love, and all that. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;BUT - healthy boundaries, remember?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;We 'slip' right?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I was gonna 'slip' last weekend, remember?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I get it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Going blank for a little, is just the minds way of clearing out the clutter, to make room for more good stuff. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; You are worthy. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You are safe...Source, is always on our side. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Always was just didnt know that before!  &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You are loved. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Be blessed kindred spirit. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;MuchMuchMuchLove.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2016 22:07:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SourceShield</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-14T22:07:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Black Dog.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193993#M26691</link>
      <description>Then God must think I am a bloody giant because - Jeez - it's just continual. How much can a koala bear?!&lt;BR /&gt;
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Seriously, all I want - no; NEED - is quiet.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Actually, coming to think of it; I have it - right now - I actually have a little bit of peace. I'd love to say serenity but I'd be lying; I have quiet. For now Mister, that is enough. I will settle with that. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Wow, isn't it incredible? Hindsight 20:20 vision. I chuckle at it now.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Might - isn't good enough. I'm hearing you loud and clear on that one. Seems to me my pencils are calling and a list is about to be in play. The bonus? I have an enclosed fire &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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Love how you write; love how you give a perspective, whilst very similar to mine, seems to just make it all FIT. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Thanks Big Buddy xx&lt;BR /&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2016 00:07:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>V17</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-15T00:07:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Black Dog.</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/black-dog/m-p/193994#M26692</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You're welcome, Sis!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If QUIET is what you have in this moment...take it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Lap it up. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Dance in its peaceful...quietness!!!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ahhhh...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Pencils.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Lists.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Fire.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Love it!. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;LuvYa&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2016 00:59:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SourceShield</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-15T00:59:19Z</dc:date>
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