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    <title>topic Stuck between a rock and a hard place, and for I freely admit that this is my doing...sortof in Depression</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey Geoff&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What op did you have if I might ask..been shall we say a bit self involved of late to really be on the forums here, what ever it was I hope it helped what ever was ailing you! And I wish you a speedy recovery!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:44:41 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Dennis38</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-02-11T11:44:41Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ok well of late been doing pretty good managing myself and my depression, doing DDP Yoga, riding a bike all in the name of getting rid of my walking cane (and man getting fit hurts!!). Well along comes my nephew in law and his wife and they moved in, they got kicked out of the place they were living in because of the fact that it was being sold (not to mention they lied and told the land lords/real estate people that they only had 2 dogs when in fact they had 6 dogs, 3 cats and a few birds). Well it happened faster then they were ready so I said they could move here, once they got rid of most of the animals especially since the wife and I already have one dog. Anyways, the kids (and the "kids" are 40 and 39 but really they are still kids in my eyes which I am only 39 lol) moved in, for a temporary place while they look for a new place to live. Well come to find out the Nephew in law's wife is in stage 5 kidney failure and needs to be on dialises and needs a new kidney. They have been trying to find a new place, well sort-of trying,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The kidney people said she needed another address closer to them (they were living in Bathurst and that is where the kidney doctor is in) in a month's time. NO way in hell will that happen so I told the kids to relax and they could stay here until everything gets properly sorted. As she has to go in ASAP to have the dialises set up soonest (surgery and all that). &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So once again doing the right thing turns around and bites me in the ass. So now I have 5 dogs, and three adults living here. My wife is menopausal and lashes out a lot of times before she can control her mouth, which means I am the one that gets the lashing. This does not help my depression one bit especially when I lash back at the wife then I feel like I am a total heel because I should be in more control then she is, this will not rip myself and the wife apart I know that, but ugg it really is putting me once again in a black mood as I try to keep the peace. Why is it that when we do the right thing it always bites us in the ass or is that just me? Last time I did the right thing by not sueing the lady that ran me over it just got me over 250k in debt a shattered body and mind.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2015 02:45:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Dennis38,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Yep, quite a pickle and as you have mentioned, your doing (sort of).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You are smart enough to know that there are things you can do to mitigate the effects of your depression, because you are doing them.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I understand your need to provide family support and that wifey may blow a fuse but won't leave town over this.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That all said, end stage kidney failure is very serious and I imagine consuming most of your nephew-in-law and his wife's time and thoughts. They are in your house enjoying your generosity. I imagine they do not wish to cause grief.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For what it is worth, I say their pets have to go. Not necessarily to doggie heaven but to someone else that can be responsible for that burden while you focus on helping them.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Anyway, there are obviously many options and some of those would be much more ruthless than my suggestion. It is, though, only a suggestion. I do think there is no reason for your generosity to impact negatively on your health.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Keep posting if you want, I'll look out for your posts. Good luck.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Kind regards, John.&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:04:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks John&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And Yeah getting rid of the dogs would be a nice idea but they are highly bonded to each other (both the humans and the dogs lol) So we are stuck with them and my dog actually likes them even the little yappers so once again stuck between a rock and a hard place. And I will agree with you that the end stage thing is a heavy burdern to them and I have had to kick them in the butt more then once to get them to go and do something so they are not just sitting in the house worrying. And as for the many options all of them are a bit more ruthless then what I am willing to do to these kids. Ugg I call them kids but they are my age but to be honest I view them as over grown 10 yearolds on a good day simply because of their poor choices and lack of thought that they put into some of their more serious choices that they have to make. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As for controlling the Depression I am finding that DDP Yoga I actually helping maintain a clearer head. Amazing what happens when we over tire the body trhough exirces and see physical change to ourselves that it improves the mental state a bit.&amp;nbsp; Also doing a few other things to help and focus my mind on other things then what I KNOW will set me into a tailspin. &lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2015 19:38:38 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;So with the ‘kids’ that are living with you – is there any kind of end date given for how long this period might be for?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;I’m guessing that where you live is closer for them in regard to the kidney doctor?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;If that’s the case, then that makes for any potential move out for them to be not so easy – as it’s a case of convenience for them as well as the kind uncle putting them up during this time.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;It’s great that you’ve found this DDP Yoga to be beneficial to you and I agree 100% that a change in the physical state of our body DOES have an impact on our mental state;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;the more that we’re able to do things, “any” kind of exercise and looking after our body, yes this does help our mental state of mind.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;So I hope that you’re able to continue on this path – just little bits at a time.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 23:22:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Neil1&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Yeah I know what you mean and for a while I was doing ok, then all this crap happened. The Yoga still helps when I can get myself to do it, part of the problem with myself is when my plans (and I did have some plans) get screwed like they have been I find that I have no motivation. Still trying though and that is what is important to keep moving forward instead of just spinning my wheels and thinking dark thoughts.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As for pooper scooper patrol no chance in hell on that, he is lazy. Ah well we will ride this storm out as always. As I have said before I am still alive thanks to love and God's good grace so I will try not to disappoint myself again.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2015 20:51:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2015 00:33:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey again Neil&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have learned to make small goals and or plans as the bigger they are the more chanses for failure to happen but for some reason even my small plans get screwed, like turning my mother in law's room (who passed away around 4 years ago) into a work room for mine and my wife's business was blown out of the water when the in-laws moved in. Its a small thing I know but the small things are what get to me because of the fact that they all add up to be big things if you know what I mean. Just means that I am stuck taking over the kitchen table, well part of it at any rate. Just gets really frustated when it seems that even the simpiest plans of mine go massively wrong! But as I said I will keep moving forward and will continue to ride this storm out in my little dingy even if I have to use my hat as a pail to keep bailing! &lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Hope you are well as you can be Neil and may the wind always be at your back! And the sun warm on your face!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Dennis&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:33:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;dear Dennis, I will only make a short reply only because my mind is not totally clear after my op, but other&amp;nbsp; than whatJohn and Neil has said, and by the way they plus a couple of other people must have have done a fantastic job within the last the&amp;nbsp; 2 weeks, not to say they have also carried on an enormous role as usual.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The only point I want to make to make is that your nephew and his wife lied to the landlord about the number of animals and that they were thrown out because the house had been sold makes me wonder, because if this happens then the real estate ( if it has gone through them) normally find them another place, so I wonder if they hadn't paid their rent.. Geoff.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:08:16 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Hi Dennis&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;I must say that on this site, I’ve come across so many awesome people.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;People who I would be proud to know in person and would really enjoy being able to sit and have a drink with.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;I’ve added you to that list.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;You’re just down to earth, as I said before, a battler who just wants to get through this thing in an ok fashion.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;“The wind at your back and the sun on your face”;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;sounds like a line that Captain Jack Sparrow might have said in the movie Pirates Of The Caribbean.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Cheers&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Neil&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2015 23:52:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/stuck-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place-and-for-i-freely-admit/m-p/60272#M10429</guid>
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      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/stuck-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place-and-for-i-freely-admit/m-p/60273#M10430</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey Geoff&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What op did you have if I might ask..been shall we say a bit self involved of late to really be on the forums here, what ever it was I hope it helped what ever was ailing you! And I wish you a speedy recovery!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:44:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/stuck-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place-and-for-i-freely-admit/m-p/60274#M10431</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey Neil&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the kind words and I would be honoured to have a drink with you. And as for a battler it comes down to being to stupid to know when to given which I am proud to claim I have more bone then brain some days! As for being down to earth I simply call it as I see it. Lets face it there are a lot of people in the world that want things sugar coated or to honestly blame every thing and everyone for their problems, when in reality the problem is them...I include myself in that category a time or two. It is just of late that I am shall we say waking up to myself and taking a good hard look at who and what I am. Some things I do not like so I am TRYING to change that. Other things I know I need to turn and face instead of sticking my fingers in my ears and going "nerener I cant hear you". &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It's not easy and I honestly think we learn more about ourselves when we are brutally honest with ourselves WHEN we are ready to be. Nothing wrong with wanting things sugar coated so long as you are willing to learn. Depression takes so much from us and that includes the ability to see straight. Even in my darker times I still fall for the demon's tricks. But I am learning to avoid most of those tricks but of late things just kidn of piled up on me as everyone knows what that feels like I wont go into to much more detail. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Its just good to get a few things off my chest and now that I am not so self aborbed I will be back posting a bit more to try and help those that need it.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:51:56 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Hi there Dennis&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Yes yes and yes … your latest response basically said it all, if not in slightly a roundabout way, which is no doubt why I understood it so well.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;And you wrote 6 words in there that I hope a lot of people will read because they are profound:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;“Depression takes so much from us…”&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Oh boy, yes it does and how!!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;I also hope that in the near future we can have your good self on here in your helpful and supportive role that you’ve done with great aplomb in the past;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;you have a wealth of knowledge and experience to pass on to others, so I hope that you find that you’re able to ‘reach out’ to others when you feel ok to do so.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Ps:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-size: 16px;"&gt;with regard to our good friend Geoff, I believe he had a full hip replacement operation – or something very close to that.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Neil&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 00:09:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Neil_1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-12T00:09:42Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey Neil&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the update the hip replacement hopefuly will ease what pain he had once he has recovered. And yeah I to tend to go around a bit when I try to get some thoughts out of my head and I plan on helping out a bit more now that I am in a bit of a better place mental wise when I can and giving out advice from a redneck's point of view!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2015 03:39:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/depression/stuck-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place-and-for-i-freely-admit/m-p/60276#M10433</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dennis38</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-02-12T03:39:29Z</dc:date>
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