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    <title>topic Shoplifting and impulse control in Anxiety</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;any suggestions or advice welcome.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I consider myself a swimming duck.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cool, calm and collected on the surface with legs struggling under the water where no one can see. I have a good job, a great bunch of friends and supportive partner but underneath I get anxious episodes and have impulse control issues.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;While I don’t have depression I have anxious episodes which can last up to 2 weeks and can drive me to shop lift - I was once caught about 10 years ago and received a documented official warning from police (one of the worst days of my life).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I spent many years free from the urge to shoplift but the Covid lockdowns re-triggered this behavior - 2 years ago. I have managed to keep my binge eating under control which is something I am proud of.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When in an anxious spiral I am driven to shoplift and then reflect on my shoplifting - which turns into paranoia (or possibly a genuine fear) that the police are building a case against me. I am then driven to often return the items and either put them back or pay for them - seemingly without anyone knowing. Items can range from a drink at coles, to a diary or candle from a shopping centre.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I spend many nights sleepless thinking about how I have been given so many opportunities and am on the verge of destroying it all with my stealing impulse control.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;while I see a psychologist, appointments are so hard to get and not as frequent as I probably need during an anxious spiral.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Questions&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;does anyone know of any podcasts, audiobooks or resources that can specifically support impulse control?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;has anyone else successfully overcome something like this?&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;To end the paranoia is this something I should call the police about? Considering I have had a warning in the past this could result in serious consequences.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 23:13:11 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>swimming_duck</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-06-13T23:13:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Shoplifting and impulse control</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/anxiety/shoplifting-and-impulse-control/m-p/567873#M49447</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;any suggestions or advice welcome.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I consider myself a swimming duck.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cool, calm and collected on the surface with legs struggling under the water where no one can see. I have a good job, a great bunch of friends and supportive partner but underneath I get anxious episodes and have impulse control issues.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;While I don’t have depression I have anxious episodes which can last up to 2 weeks and can drive me to shop lift - I was once caught about 10 years ago and received a documented official warning from police (one of the worst days of my life).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I spent many years free from the urge to shoplift but the Covid lockdowns re-triggered this behavior - 2 years ago. I have managed to keep my binge eating under control which is something I am proud of.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When in an anxious spiral I am driven to shoplift and then reflect on my shoplifting - which turns into paranoia (or possibly a genuine fear) that the police are building a case against me. I am then driven to often return the items and either put them back or pay for them - seemingly without anyone knowing. Items can range from a drink at coles, to a diary or candle from a shopping centre.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I spend many nights sleepless thinking about how I have been given so many opportunities and am on the verge of destroying it all with my stealing impulse control.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;while I see a psychologist, appointments are so hard to get and not as frequent as I probably need during an anxious spiral.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Questions&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;does anyone know of any podcasts, audiobooks or resources that can specifically support impulse control?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;has anyone else successfully overcome something like this?&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;To end the paranoia is this something I should call the police about? Considering I have had a warning in the past this could result in serious consequences.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 23:13:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>swimming_duck</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-13T23:13:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Shoplifting and impulse control</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/anxiety/shoplifting-and-impulse-control/m-p/567920#M49460</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Look this is a stretch… but there might be something you find useful on YouTube in an unrelated condition&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;like ADHD or OCD&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So ADHD folk engage in risk taking behavior sometimes for a buzz and dopamine&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;OCD is compulsions driven by anxiety and people do things to relieve the anxiety&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So if the brain is wanting to compulsively do something destructive and harmful to offset anxiety…&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;take a step back… it’s about what that compulsive behavior is representing or doing for you. What is it doing for you?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and can it be replaced with an activity and you keep redirecting to that activity every time&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Being worried you’re going to get caught and get into trouble isn’t paranoia - that’s rational and an intelligent thought&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;it’s supposed to deter you from repeating behavior so if that isn’t enough&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;take a step back - focus on what you feel or what is happening when you steal…&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;also… anxiety spirals can be episodic or mood related… like actually be a condition&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;or be a way you’re coping with stress (the shoplifting I mean)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;so to avoid the stress, and anxiety of shoplifting…. someone needs to help you figure out why you do it and help you with strategies&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Shoplifting could be a maladaptive self soothing or self regulating activity&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;so it’s about replacing it with something healthier&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;avoid shops when anxious if you need to… until you have a new way of de-stressing&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Self-stimulating with risk taking behavior is probably about dopamine and reward.. it’s a thrill&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Going for a run… or playing some kind of speed/time based game… and having a bucket of distractions… it might help&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;self-reporting shop lifting? if it’s related to a condition, it’s more a situation to reach out to a health care provider for support vs police&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Police can’t do anything besides charge you for crimes - there’s nothing else they can do. It’s not like casinos who can ban you. They’re limited to what their jobs are. They can refer you on to a health care service.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Always reach out when you have the urges to steal and sometimes that’s all you need.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Recognise the patterns; avoid shops and seek extra peer support and talk about it like you have.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2023 12:26:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/anxiety/shoplifting-and-impulse-control/m-p/567920#M49460</guid>
      <dc:creator>rufina03</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-14T12:26:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Shoplifting and impulse control</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/anxiety/shoplifting-and-impulse-control/m-p/568000#M49478</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for your insights, this does make a lot of sense.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think I’m in the OCD category - I don’t get a thrill as such, more of a relief/sense of control.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;it could have returned during the Victorian lockdowns as I felt so out of control and the impulse has stuck again. I had a very loving childhood but we moved every 2 years for my dads job - so I think the desire for control may be linked to that feeling of no control.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think I’ll avoid stores when I am in a spiral, I have also purchased the calm app and have been doing daily anxiety sessions.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just want to be the best version of myself and really dream of a day I am back in control of myself.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2023 20:56:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/anxiety/shoplifting-and-impulse-control/m-p/568000#M49478</guid>
      <dc:creator>swimming_duck</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-15T20:56:36Z</dc:date>
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