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I think I might have OCD

chociloni — Thu, 03 Dec 2020 14:54:56 GMT

It has always been said that I have anxiety (earlier in life I was diagnosed with having an anxiety disorder). However as I am getting older I find I am having these funny control patterns. I need to plan order of events, times / dates...and need to do things straight away as soon as I think of them. Eg, if I am at work and find I need to make a call about something I want to organise I become anxious if I can't do it straight away, and have this feeling I am going to miss out on the only opportunity to make this call. I do silly things like having to check that my front door is locked properly 3 times before I leave the house, even when I can see I locked it properly. I worry that randomly the oven has been left on when it clearly hasn't. I also need to check my car door a few times to see if it's locked properly when I can see the first time it's locked. I fear if I don't do these checking things there will be some kind of 'explosion' or catastrophe. I also often randomly worry that I will lose my job or my lease will be ended abruptly for no reason. For example I fear strange things like if my lease runs out, before it's renewed in that short interim period I will lose my job and become destitute. Like if I lose one thing, all of the rest of my life will come crushing down - like something is punishing me.

I also now struggle with driving on the freeway, the merging of changing lanes overwhelms me and at times I've felt I'm bordering on having a panic attack. 5 years ago this never happened to me.

Having said all of this this stuff doesn't take over my whole life, I still get by and can work through this stuff, I just find it really odd. This funny control stuff is probably about 10% of my life. I currently see a psychologist, however I don't feel she is the right fit for this kindof stuff.

Is this more the kindof thing you'd see a psychiatrist for? Looking for help and answers.

I find it very difficult to just move with the flow of life.

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geoff — Thu, 03 Dec 2020 19:56:25 GMT

Hello Chociloni, thanks for opening up to us and as an OCD sufferer myself along with many other people, what you have told us are definitely indications that anxiety are causing this illness.

I'm not a doctor but after having OCD for 60 years these are classical signs that it may have an effect on your behaviour.

It's a disturbing illness that intrudes on our mind and causes a great deal of discomfort, which we then try to reduce by engaging in repetitive behaviours and/or compulsions.

Don't blame yourself because once you do, it only intensifies the situation.

Your psychologist might not necessarily be versified in dealing with and I say this because not all teachers are able to handle different types of maths questions as an example and the same could apply with her, trained in a different area.

Do you feel comfortable asking her if she knows another counsellor who specifically deals in this area.

My thoughts are with you and understand everything you've told us andhope you can get back to us.

Best wishes.

Geoff.

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Rainbow_Swan — Fri, 04 Dec 2020 00:34:42 GMT

Hi Chociloni

I also suffer from OCD and generalised anxiety. Perhaps you could have a chat with your GP about your options, ask them if they think a referral to a Psychiatrist is right for you?

It's really important to find a Psychologist that is knowledgeable and that is a good fit for you - keep trying, there are good ones out there.

I personally use medication (through a Psychiatrist), Nutrient therapy (through a specially trained GP), a Psychologist and self-help techniques.

I suggest you get the book "Brain Lock" by Jeffrey Schwartz. He is a medical doctor that has exclusively researched OCD at UCLA for over 20 years. The book explains what OCD is, and how to fight it - this is the self-help book I use, it really is excellent!

Good luck!

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chociloni — Fri, 04 Dec 2020 14:37:05 GMT

Hi Rainbow Swan,

What is nutrient therapy? I see a naturopath as I have bad sinus issues and I eat a gluten, dairy and grain free diet, it helps with sinus issues so much, I lose weight and helps with depression. My naturopath has also been treating my irregular cycle which relates to my anxiety so much...It's weird since I've been doing all of this treatment with my naturopath has made me see how these control patterns are an issue? I really feel this is more of a newish and hopefully shorter term thing I can work through.

Also thanks Geoff for your reply would like to hear more about what works for you with OCD and your experiences. x

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geoff — Fri, 04 Dec 2020 18:02:21 GMT

Hello Chociloni, I forgot to mention that I take an SSRI designed for OCD and depression and it's not easy to say whether or not my obsessions/compulsions have or have not improved, probably yes I would say because they are not as bad as when I was a kid.

There is one benefit, whether you want to treat this as beneficial or not, is that if you need to do any obs/compulsion in the house you're living in, these will stop and be replaced by another habit or ritual if you move to other living quarters.

I have a twin who doesn't have OCD nor suffered from any depression and for that, I am just so grateful and never ever said anything about my OCD and how I was behaving, it was an older brother who teased me, that's when I started to hide what I was doing, that's a long time ago and nobody except the doctors/psychologist know.

Playing sport at school as well as after, gave me the chance to be free of this illness only until it stopped, then it resumed while no one noticed.

My diet had been considered by the psychologist, but there was no emphasis based on this, hopefully, modern medicine can provide the answers we're looking for.

You can ask any question you like.

Best wishes.

Geoff.

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Petal22 — Sat, 05 Dec 2020 15:35:43 GMT

Hi chociloni ,

I had OCD but have now recovered from it.... there is hope that you can recover aswell with the correct help..

OCD is a thinking cycle once you become aware of what your cycle is you can start to break free of it..

My recovery started from seeing a gp to seeing a clinical psychologist and physicist which led me to a group OCD therapy at a clinic that specialised in OCD...

have you tried meditation? This is great I believe it got me over the line for overcoming my ocd...

you are not alone many people have this condition....

I’m here if you want to chat or have any questions...

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chociloni — Sun, 06 Dec 2020 06:33:20 GMT

Hi all,

Mostly at the moment wanting help with 'catastrophising.' Any online resources?

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Rainbow_Swan — Sun, 06 Dec 2020 06:55:32 GMT

Hi Petal22

Can you tell us more about your specialist OCD therapy please? I'm very interested to hear what techniques were used.

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Petal22 — Sun, 06 Dec 2020 08:24:01 GMT

Hi chociloni,

in regards to catrasphonising once you become aware you are doing this you need to stop doing it.... bring your attention back to the present moment.... eg if you are washing the dishes... how does the water feel, what sounds do the dishes make..... this will interup your cycle.....

the more aware you become of your cycle the easier it will be for you to break it..... I highly recommend meditation this will teach you to become more aware of your thoughts and that they are just thoughts.... it teaches you that we arnt our thoughts but the bystander of our thoughts...... we are the watcher of our thoughts......

also if you are seeking reassurance you need to stop doing this.... reassurance seeking is part of the cycle...... also analysing your thoughts is part of the cycle..... so once you become aware you are doing this stop doing it.......

if you are checking things...... stop doing it..... this is part of the cycle..... put your attention onto other things in the present moment 😊

I went through ocd for a while before I could get a grip on the strategies but once you become aware of your cycle you CAN stop it......

You CAN learn to break free of the cycle it just takes practice.

im here if you want to chat 😊

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Petal22 — Sun, 06 Dec 2020 08:26:54 GMT

I also recommend you see some one who specialises in OCD maybe see your gp to begin with and then a clinical psychologist who may know some one who specialises in OCD... ...... a group therapy for ocd is great it seems daunting at first but it was the best thing I ever did...

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chociloni — Sun, 06 Dec 2020 09:09:19 GMT

thanks. The reason i find it hard to calm the worrying patterns is due to fear of something coming in and over taking me...it's very hard for me to trust that it won't, so I go through these anxiety practices in the hope it will stop it.

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Petal22 — Sun, 06 Dec 2020 11:23:43 GMT

It’s part of your ocd cycle..... I understand...... when you get the thoughts try not to answer them back just let them be there ..... sit with the anxiety without doing anything else and just wait for it to fade away..... it WILL fade away don’t give your thoughts any attention......

im here if you want to chat, please try to get in contact with your gp and see a clinical phycologist or psychiatrist and ask if they can give you a referral to a OCD therapy.......

im here if you want to chat

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chociloni — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 08:40:40 GMT

what is the help though for facing the scary thoughts?

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Petal22 — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 14:44:51 GMT

Just let them be there and don’t question them..... when you have the thoughts bring your attention to some thing you are doing in the present moment.....

the more attention we give to a thought the more the mind will bring it up because it thinks it’s important...

it takes practice... I highly recommend you try meditation...

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geoff — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 17:48:07 GMT

Hello Chociloni, I've been following this thread with great interest, thanks to your support from Petal22, and if I can come into the conversation, only by adding on to what's been said.

These scary thoughts you may be having could be 'intrusive thoughts', which can quite easily happen when you have OCD and the extra anxiety they cause, whereas someone who doesn't have this illness may be able to rationalise the situation.

The more you try and repress these thoughts the stronger they become and perhaps more frequently, plus being in that particular situation only makes it worse, whereas if you're able to leave then hopefully they will slowly diminish.

OCD can take anything that is reassuring and turning it into a compulsion.

Take care.

Geoff.

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Petal22 — Tue, 08 Dec 2020 04:15:29 GMT

Hi Rainbow Swan, I was referred to the OCD clinic by my clinical phycologist and phyciatrist... my group therapy was for 8 weeks it was an intervention into the OCD.... it took time to master the skills I was taught and once I did I mastered my OCD...

we were taught how to notice our obsessions and compulsions

what our vicious cycle of OCD was and how we reacted to it.

we were taught how to challenge our thoughts eg evidence for and eve dance against

We were taught to recognise our early warning signs before going into our OCD cycle

We would also repeat the thought over and over again so we could see the outcome of having this thought...

finally we were taught how to drive the new system

we did meditation every day ( I would highly recommend this)

we also practiced mindfulness

😊

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chociloni — Tue, 08 Dec 2020 05:34:32 GMT

Hi Rainbow Swan, did you feel triggered though by other members in the group?