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Loneliness and my thought patterns

oldmate322 — Wed, 16 Sep 2020 08:18:52 GMT

Hi guys, i am trying to be kind to myself and acknowledge that this is a problem I should talk about, even though I know this may not be as serious as others are experiencing.

I am a 32 year old Sydney resident for at least 5 or so years now. I have frequently experienced loneliness throughout my life, as well as GAD and some minor depression, and have had few relationships and/or encounters. The last serious relationship I was in was 2 years ago and I have not dated or indeed been intimate with anyone since that time until very recently.

For all intents and purposes I have a good life. I live in a nice suburb, in a nice apartment, have kept my job as a legal adviser during COVID and otherwise am comfortable.

Logically I have a good thing going, yet I constantly battle with loneliness and isolation. I have very few friends in the city, and tend to get very nervous and/or fatigued trying to find/engage in new activities.

Recently, I became friends with an amazing girl who has some of her own mental health problems. We became close friends and have been intimate at least twice. However she has since expressed that whilst she loves me as a friend, she is not interested in pursuing a relationship. I knew this when we were intimate and had resigned myself to this, but through helping her through an episode recently and through not having much in the way of other close relationships, I have fallen for this girl. I have expressed this to her, and she has let me down gently. I obviously don’t blame her, and do not expect that she will reciprocate my feelings simply because I have them, but nevertheless it has triggered me to have a strong bout of loneliness, which is bordering on depression.

Most importantly, my inner critical voice has stirred up as a result, and I am becoming very unkind to myself about my perceived failings in my romantic life.

Recently I have been taking steps to try and recognise these negative thought patterns, but every time I think about this girl, and the fact she has started dating others, I feel an immense sadness, which sometimes triggers off these thoughts.

I guess my question is: should I do something within these sad moments, or should I continue to allow myself to feel these sad moments to help process the pain. I’m concerned that whilst I should allow myself to feel sad without judgement, if I don’t actively take steps to combat these moments, that it may turn into a cycle of self pity.

Thanks

Loneliness and my thought patterns

romantic_thi3f — Thu, 17 Sep 2020 00:21:11 GMT

Hi oldmate322,

Welcome to the forums - and sidenote: your username doesn't fit if you are 32! 🙂

Thank you for joining us and sharing what's going on with you. It sounds like you've been doing a lot of reflecting lately and I'm sorry you're feeling lonely- it can be hard as is and worse with COVID.

What are the messages that your inner critic has been giving you lately, or where do you think this is coming from?

To answer your question, I think both can be okay at times since it depends what you need. Sometimes distracting can help, and sometimes being in and with the moment can help too. The difference to me is with self-pity it becomes "poor me", where as with sitting in sadness it's acceptance of "I'm having a tough time".

I hope this helps a little. This forum is really lovely so you're not alone - if you're up to it, you can also search things such as 'lonely' or 'loneliness' up the top to find other threads to join in with.

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oldmate322 — Thu, 17 Sep 2020 07:29:06 GMT

Thank you, this helps. 🙂

in terms of my thought patterns, I’ve always had a very loud inner critic, especially when it comes to romance/intimacy. It’s comments change as the needs arise, but always follow the theme of ‘you’re not interesting, you’re not clever, you have nothing to offer, you’re not good looking, you’re off putting’. I don’t follow the typical path of seeking to blame the other person (which is good) but instead I tend to turn the pain inward. Being alone for a while, and being in a difficult relationship prior hasn’t helped.

I Guess I just have this constant worry that I will continue to be lonely, or settle for someone simply to try and stop being lonely. It’s hard to focus on personal development and I’ve become a little fatigued with trying lately.

I try and practice mindfulness when I can, sometimes I wonder though if I’m also secretly comfortable being sad/miserable, and/or use it to get attention. I often feel I am a burden on friends/family when I reach out for help, and tend to develop self loathing when I do it too often.

I’m working hard to try and shift myself. I guess forums like these are helpful because people seem to understand and I feel less judgement for posting my problems.

my thanks

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romantic_thi3f — Thu, 17 Sep 2020 23:16:20 GMT

Hi oldmate322,

It's really good to hear back from you and I'm so glad it helps 🙂

Gosh that's a mean inner critic hey, although it's good that you're able to identify it.

It's interesting (?) to me that this inner critic kind of showed it's face after what happened with your friend - because from what I've read your friend wasn't ever interested in a relationship, so it really had nothing at all to do with you.

One of the things I learned in therapy is trying to talk back to those thoughts- they are automatic and most of the time they're BS. Even that one about how you have 'nothing to offer' is certainly untrue given that you helped your friend through a mental health episode. That alone is incredibly caring and thoughtful.

I hope that it gives you something to think about - sometimes little reframes can help change the way you see yourself and that you have more to offer - and also that while you're lonely now, you won't be forever.

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romantic_thi3f — Thu, 17 Sep 2020 23:18:12 GMT

p.s.

What makes you think practicing mindfulness is causing all these things?

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oldmate322 — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 09:05:18 GMT

Hi,

Thank you again for your words of encouragement. 🙂

Romance or intimacy tends to trigger a lot of my insecurities I guess. Whilst I can accept that sometimes someone just doesn’t see you in the way you wished they would, a part of me blames myself regardless. It’s like if I was better in some way that would have solved the issue. I know conceptually this is ridiculous, but emotionally it’s harder to shake. Feeling lonely and isolated doesn’t help matters much, and social media tends to compound it.

I guess I tend to overthink when I’m Experiencing happiness that I should be miserable. It can be insidious because instead of just being happy when I can, I create my own monster. I also tend to stew on my own problems because it’s familiar, it almost feels like I’m happy being miserable, or maybe I just don’t trust it, which then causes me to blame myself for feeling miserable...it’s a mind warp and hard to verbalise.

I’m seeing a therapist, and trying to flag my patterns, It’s a struggle because I’ve spent so long criticising myself, it’s hard to shift that mentality. My therapist says that no one knows how to exploit your own self doubt more than your own inner voice, so fighting off the thought patterns with mindfulness can seem stupid from time to time due to my own internal dialogue Telling me so.

I’m trying, so that’s something I guess

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romantic_thi3f — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 00:07:34 GMT

Hi oldmate322,

You're very welcome 🙂

Yeah I can see that and how it would make sense. Our inner voice and critic wants to make sense of everything - mine has been really loud lately. I think that if someone doesn't want a relationship, it doesn't really matter who they are with - as I saw from your earlier posts I can see you are a great catch, so you can be Brad Pitt or Channing Tatum and it still wouldn't change her mind!

I get the time warp thing and it makes sense, but it's okay to be miserable and it's okay to be happy being miserable. It's also okay to stew on your own problems. I know that it sounds unhealthy and awful, but it is comfortable and familiar and we as humans like the familiar. Everything else can seem a bit scary or vulnerable - because it means putting ourselves out there and facing the unknown.

One idea that you might like is giving your own inner critic a kind of personality - it helps because it can create some separation. Mindfulness can help us sit with it all, but giving it a personality can work in a similar way because it's still some distance. I know it sounds so abstract (and it kind of is) but I encourage you to try it out.

Keep on trying - you're doing great

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Whatsinaname — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 11:56:29 GMT

I cant add much more romantic hasnt already, but thought I'd say welcome and I relate to this much more than I care to admit "I guess I tend to overthink when I’m Experiencing happiness that I should be miserable"

Thats hurdle that I have yet learnt to cross, but working with a psych + meds seem to making mu inner crtic a little less sticky.

If you ever want to chat I'm happy to.

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Sweesoft — Fri, 25 Sep 2020 02:24:08 GMT

Hi there,

Feeling sadness is part of the process. Embrace it because it's part of being a human - to feel. However, you shouldn't let this be all you feel. Think of your motivations and try your very best to come out of the dark. We should only have one way and that's forward. We should never go back or get stuck. Life is happening every second of the day. Stay strong.

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oldmate322 — Mon, 19 Oct 2020 06:11:21 GMT

Hi guys, so I know I posted I was getting better, but I’ve had a slight setback which is making me feel very poor about myself. I have been really struggling to manage that inner voice as a result and I can’t seem to apply mindfulness as I’m so constantly worked up/upset.

I continue to struggle with controlling my emotions and feelings of loneliness and I’ve had another episode.

As with last time, my episode was triggered by the girl I have feelings for dating someone else. We have been meeting as friends for a little while since I posted, which has been nice, and I thought I was moving towards a good place with this, but recently she has spent the night with a date and that has stirred up things again.

Essentially it feels like a while back when my ex had started dating again, conceptually the two situations are completely different, but it broke my heart all the same. all the judgemental thoughts about myself, my prospects for future romance with anyone and my general worth as a person have come back. I can’t help but feel that it almost borders on obsessive that I reacted so strongly, and now every time I think of it, I get worked up and teary, I’m really struggling to cope and I’m feeling fairly hopeless about my prospects of moving on at the moment.

I can’t help but feel like I’m overreacting, which then causes me to criticise myself further. I also can’t silence that voice that keeps telling me to stop being so overly emotional...I can’t stop feeling what I’m feeling, but I’m hating myself for it.

It’s so hard to explain this to family and friends, my life isn’t that bad on paper, I should be able to find happiness, but I can’t seem to reign in my emotions and I’m constantly struggling with this type of stuff. I can’t seem to move past it for very long. I tend to have flare ups of melancholy and self loathing tends to accompany it. It’s so fatiguing to try and improve myself when constantly battling this feeling of hopeless and anxiety.

Loneliness and my thought patterns

Sophie_M — Mon, 19 Oct 2020 06:29:34 GMT

Hi oldmate322,

We're sorry to hear that you're having to constantly battle feelings of hopelessness and anxiety. It sounds like you're struggling with a lot of unhelpful thoughts. This is something that many of our members have experienced - hopefully a few of them will pop by to relate and maybe offer some sage words of wisdom.

You might find it useful to take a look at some of our online resources for some ideas:

“Loneliness” -
https://www.beyondblue.org.au/personal-best/pillar/in-focus/loneliness-the-public-health-issue-we-should-all-know-about

“Coping with a relationship breakdown” -
https://www.beyondblue.org.au/personal-best/pillar/wellbeing/coping-with-a-relationship-breakdown

It's good to hear that you're seieng a therapist. If you ever find that you need to talk to someone in between sessions, MensLine Australia is a free 24/7 telephone and online counselling service for men with emotional health and relationship concerns. You can contact them on 1300 78 99 78 or https://mensline.org.au/

We hope that you keep checking back in and let us know how you are going when you feel up to it.

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oldmate322 — Sun, 25 Oct 2020 05:46:44 GMT

Thank you, I’m a little better since when I posted this, was in a very bad state. I suspect that I may have progressed from anxiety issues to Depression, and that this may account for some of my dissatisfaction and disassociation with life lately. It was a strong emotional upset, and I am still not out of the woods yet, but I am a little better than I was. I’m hoping the therapy will help, as I am struggling to motivate myself to Go out and do things to better myself as I have been trying previously when feeling upset.

Thank you for the response

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oldmate322 — Wed, 16 Feb 2022 02:47:37 GMT

Hi guys, have posted something similar before, but I’ve recently had an event which has caused a huge spike in feelings of inadequacy with my life and myself in general.

The short of it is that I am constantly feeling like I am struggling to keep up with everyone in life. This is both in terms of life experiences, sexual experiences and general social acceptance.

I am a 34 year old Sydney resident for at least 6 or so years now. I have experienced loneliness as well as GAD. The last serious relationship I was in was 4 years ago and I have had limited dating and intimate liaisons with anyone since that time until very recently.

For all intents and purposes I otherwise have a good life. I live in a nice suburb, in a nice apartment, have a decent job as a legal adviser. Logically I have a good thing going, yet I constantly battle with loneliness and isolation.

Recently I have had a weekend encounter with a girl who was absolutely amazing. Whilst I’m usually cautious about this sort of thing, I have been caught off guard and completely fell for this girl despite myself.

After the event (which included both physical and emotional closeness) the girl has indicated she was not ready for a relationship with me, gave reasonable grounds and generally handled the situation as well as could be expected when someone is not interested. I have no anger towards her, but it has really stirred up feelings of inadequacy in me. The girl in question was well travelled, financially stable and ahead, and had sexual experience which I somewhat lack. despite knowing this is a negative pattern, I am criticising myself for not being at the same level.

I am also judging myself because my life is not as bad as others, but I am either financially restricted, anxiety restricted, or just generally uncomfortable. I feel like I am wasting my life, as a result, and fallen behind due to my own mentality, rather than circumstance.

I know Im supposed to build internal strength, find contentment in self, but this girl was everything I was looking for. I don’t know if this was just idolisation, and I know I should rely on self affirmation, rather than a relationship, but this girl ticked every box for me and now I have to try and be mature about the whole thing, which makes it harder because I’m more upset than I think I should be for such a brief encounter. Additionally, Though I try not to, I am constantly judging myself for feeling this way.

Thank you for letting me vent a little

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Sophie_M — Wed, 16 Feb 2022 04:58:01 GMT

Hey Oldmate,

Thank you for sharing this update with the community. We know that it can be really difficult to take that step and ask for some help, but you never know who might read your post and feel less alone in their own experience. You're always welcome to vent here.

We can hear you've been really struggling with feelings of isolation, inadequacy and self-criticism. That's an incredibly hard place to be, we're sorry that's been going on for you. We'll probably hear from the community at some point. In the meantime, here's some things around the site we thought you might find handy:

The Beyond Blue article on When your inner critic is giving you a tough time
This previous thread on Talking to your inner critic - can it be tamed? where community members have shared what's worked for them in dealing with some oif the feelings you mention.

Remember you can always reach out to our support service to talk things through, on 1300 22 4636, or online.

Thanks again for sharing here, Oldmate.

Kind regards,

Sophie M