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    <title>topic steroid hormones &amp; low mood in Anxiety</title>
    <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/anxiety/steroid-hormones-low-mood/m-p/410402#M31234</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey whose_da_man88,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I had to login to my BB account just to reply to this post. What you have explained is exactly what I am experiencing right down the schedule. I generally get to sleep ok because I feel ok of an evening, and then by early morning 2-5am I awake feeling shaky, confused, achy and fatigued. Most mornings getting ready and going to work are a big struggle.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Because it happens in the morning I tend to put myself into an anxious state and it takes me all day as you've mentioned to get out of it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Along with the above symptoms I struggle with back, shoulder, neck, abdo aches and annoyingly Naseau. I have had countless scans, and blood tests to rule out any issues. The thing I struggle with the most is accepting the results and diagnosis of GAD and also Health related anxiety.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Anxiety is a new one for me and it came out of the blue. I just started some medication from my GP and will be accessing a psychologist for the first time this week.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I agree with Dools, I would run your symptoms past your GP so they can rule out physical issues.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I too hope you find some decent answers, its so frustrating at times.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Cheers&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Marno92&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2019 01:40:26 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Marno92</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-04-08T01:40:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>steroid hormones &amp; low mood</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/anxiety/steroid-hormones-low-mood/m-p/410400#M31232</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;I had been reading up on serotonin levels and realised that this one chemical/neurotransmitter can cause both depression and anxiety. One symptom that i keep getting is fatigue/lethargy. Some days I wake up and my body feels like it has run a marathon or was hit by a train and it's impossible to get up. And when I do get up, i feel like I want to crawl back into bed or into a corner.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;What I find is that if I cope through the day, this feeling of fatigue/lethargy (amongst other symptoms such as feel very dull and detached in the brain), seems to dissipate in the evening and I feel like I'm close to normal.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;I can find details of morning anxiety etc but I can't find any information why things clear up in the evening.&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;I have a theory and wanted to see what others think. When I wake up, I can't get back to sleep. I hear the cortisol is released into the bloodstream around 3AM and that too much cortisol can make you tired. Is it possible that I am too stressed when I sleep and my body is releasing too much cortisol - which I then lower when I do day-to-day things so by the evening I don't feel tired anymore?&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;Thanks.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 06:23:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/anxiety/steroid-hormones-low-mood/m-p/410400#M31232</guid>
      <dc:creator>whose_da_man88</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-04-01T06:23:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>steroid hormones &amp; low mood</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/anxiety/steroid-hormones-low-mood/m-p/410401#M31233</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi whose_da_man88,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us and your experience. I suggest you have a chat with your Dr. He/she may be able to enlighten you on what is happening and maybe offer advice on how to handle the feelings you are experiencing in the mornings.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Our bodies certainly are amazing "machines". The intricacies of all the different chemical combinations and systems that make us human are incredible.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I agree with you that early morning lethargy and fatigue is not a good way to start the day. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I sometimes look on Google for information, if it is something medical I run it past my Dr to make sure the information is factual or something he agrees with.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hope you find some answers.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Cheers from Dools&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2019 08:58:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/anxiety/steroid-hormones-low-mood/m-p/410401#M31233</guid>
      <dc:creator>Doolhof</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-04-02T08:58:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>steroid hormones &amp; low mood</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/anxiety/steroid-hormones-low-mood/m-p/410402#M31234</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey whose_da_man88,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I had to login to my BB account just to reply to this post. What you have explained is exactly what I am experiencing right down the schedule. I generally get to sleep ok because I feel ok of an evening, and then by early morning 2-5am I awake feeling shaky, confused, achy and fatigued. Most mornings getting ready and going to work are a big struggle.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Because it happens in the morning I tend to put myself into an anxious state and it takes me all day as you've mentioned to get out of it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Along with the above symptoms I struggle with back, shoulder, neck, abdo aches and annoyingly Naseau. I have had countless scans, and blood tests to rule out any issues. The thing I struggle with the most is accepting the results and diagnosis of GAD and also Health related anxiety.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Anxiety is a new one for me and it came out of the blue. I just started some medication from my GP and will be accessing a psychologist for the first time this week.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I agree with Dools, I would run your symptoms past your GP so they can rule out physical issues.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I too hope you find some decent answers, its so frustrating at times.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Cheers&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Marno92&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2019 01:40:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/anxiety/steroid-hormones-low-mood/m-p/410402#M31234</guid>
      <dc:creator>Marno92</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-04-08T01:40:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>steroid hormones &amp; low mood</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/anxiety/steroid-hormones-low-mood/m-p/410403#M31235</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks Doolhof and Marno92.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I will have to check in with my GP. I had an MRI and as expected came back clean and forgot to ask at that time.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Lately i've been waking up around 6-7AM and can't sleep (about 6-7 hours sleep). I then lie in bed either trying to sleep or listen to the headspace app or do breathing excercise. I get up and I am ok. Gradually the symptoms start to come and I feel like crap - namely the brain feels disassociated, heightened sense of awareness most noticeable in the gut and chest, and lately the whole chest is thumping. It seems by evening I am almost back to normal. Go to sleep and then repeat.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Anyone else like this where it is better in the evening?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sorry to hear Marno92 that you have going through the same struggles. I too also struggle to accept it is anxiety/depression symptoms ... in actual fact I stopped seeing my psychologists because I didn't see how what they were doing was helping but I have recently resumed again and trying to trust in what they are doing and to accept it is "anxiety" - well at least that what I'm going through is anxiety symptoms.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hence a lot of reading and Googling and this is one post I'm trying to make head to tail of is why my pattern of symptoms don't match others ... I don't feel it is morning anxiety which is what comes up a lot on Google.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2019 06:06:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/anxiety/steroid-hormones-low-mood/m-p/410403#M31235</guid>
      <dc:creator>whose_da_man88</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-04-11T06:06:55Z</dc:date>
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