topic ANXIETY AND HEALING A TIRED MIND in Anxiety

ANXIETY AND HEALING A TIRED MIND

blondguy — Sun, 15 Jan 2017 01:24:48 GMT

Hi Everybody

I wasted 13 years of my life without taking full advantage of therapy. Whether I was stubborn or hiding behind the walls I had up whilst seeing a therapist was costly to my mental health and laid the foundations for depression in later life.

One therapist actually poked around and penetrated my 'force field' and had me crying like a baby. I was embarrassed and felt awful by crying in front of a guy that I hardly knew. Little did I know that he not only got me back to work later but dumped a huge amount of anxiety as well.

This guy also was firm that I saw him weekly for six months....I really let go and cried for the first few visits then he worked on CBT

Having a really good cry (mega vent) is a wonderful cleanser. At the time you will feel awful/uncomfortable however after 24 hours you will have so much more peace of mind than you would believe. Your concentration, sleep and general mental health will improve as well

Its difficult and uncomfortable to cry like this for many of us, but the temporary feelings of feeling vulnerable fade into insignificance against the benefits that can be achieved

Whether you have or haven't had a mega cry with a therapist your thoughts would be appreciated.

If you are stuck in the quicksand of anxiety or the darkness of depression I do hope this may be of even a small help to someone

New Posters are also strongly Encouraged to provide their thoughts 🙂

my kindest

Paul

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blondguy — Sun, 15 Jan 2017 11:32:06 GMT

Clarification: I neglected to mention that this only worked for me in reducing my medium/high range anxiety/panic attacks..It may not be everyone's cup of tea as everyone has their own ways of reducing their own anxiety..

my kind thoughts 🙂

Paul

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BballJ — Sun, 15 Jan 2017 11:46:32 GMT

Hi Paul,

Thank you for another great post, I know you are familiar with my story but just for other people also who may read this, I found my psychologist to be of great assistance, getting through to my feelings I never even knew existed. I didn't cry, was on the verge, but I didn't, but my oh my have I broken down a few times to myself, even whilst laying next to my wife in bed while she sleeps. I have good and bad days, when I feel lonely, I break down but there is stuff to be said about a good psychologist in your story and mine but also having a good friend to talk and listen....there is this clip I listen to on youtube and the speaker says this which you may find interesting and it breaks me down when i hear it.

"I want you to close your eyes... picture yourself in an open field, there are no buildings and no shelter, there is a storm above you.. the storm represents the situations and problems in your life and you don't tell anyone what you're going through, because they wouldn't understand and they can't help you anyway, you're in this storm and you're down on your knees and you're cold and you're weak.... are you not still here? you are still here, you don't have to do this alone....but hold onto that person who you think might help you and imagine them right now saying "I can't stop the storm right now, but I will hold you and keep you warm, until the storm passes"... because when they hold you and the storm is still there then it's ok because they are with you all the way"

I think this can be taken as that person is your psychologist or friend or spouse but either way I think it is an amazing quote and one I draw a lot from even though it breaks me down.

Just wanted to add that in, always find strength in your post's Paul... you have got me through some bad days with your insight and I can never thank you enough.

My best for you as always,

Jay

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blondguy — Sun, 15 Jan 2017 13:18:26 GMT

Hi Jay 🙂

Thankyou for the genuine heartfelt compliment about finding strength in my posts...It means more to me than you know.

I just slowly read the clip (text) you have provided and I nearly teared up....seriously...

Here it is again for others because its GOLD;

"I want you to close your eyes... picture yourself in an open field,
there are no buildings and no shelter, there is a storm above you.. the
storm represents the situations and problems in your life and you don't
tell anyone what you're going through, because they wouldn't understand
and they can't help you anyway, you're in this storm and you're down on
your knees and you're cold and you're weak.... are you not still here?
you are still here, you don't have to do this alone....but hold onto
that person who you think might help you and imagine them right now
saying "I can't stop the storm right now, but I will hold you and keep
you warm, until the storm passes"... because when they hold you and the
storm is still there then it's ok because they are with you all the way"

I have copied and pasted it into my 'Coping' folder Jay (and will be forwarding it to people I know that suffer and dont have the courage to post on the forums) Nice1 Jay

I have read nearly all of the kind & caring responses you have provided to people in pain since you have been a member of the BB Forum Family Jay.

Your words are true and spoken from the heart. Your counsel/advice is an asset to the Beyond Blue Forums

You are a (true) Champion Jay

you have my total respect and please stick around...

Paul

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geoff — Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:49:38 GMT

dear Paul, a very comment and reply from Jay, because there are times when a fellow doesn't want to cry to their psychologist, especially if they are the same sex, and when this happens is that you don't talk about the real issues you are struggling with, just to avoid the embarrassment of crying, so you talk about ridiculous topics as the sports report or what you have planned for the rest of the week.
Firstly how is this going to help you, it won't, a waste of time for them as well as yourself, and misuse of money for the session that comes under the mental health plan.
When you go into the psych's office there is always a box of tissues and obviously they are there for one reason, to be used when you start crying, don't worry I've used them and have no guilt in doing so.
By being able to cry means that it releases a natural painkiller called 'leucine enkephalin' and that's the reason why you feel better after you have a cry, so don't feel embarrassed, you need to discuss what is causing you all of this trouble and why you are struggle from one day to the next. Geoff.

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blondguy — Sun, 15 Jan 2017 19:45:17 GMT

Thankyou Geoff for your response

If I may quote a part of your post so others may be helped;

Geoff Said: "When you go into the psych's office there is always a box of tissues and obviously they are there for one reason, to be used when you start crying, don't worry I've used them and have no guilt in doing so"

Really appreciate your wisdom and input on this thread Geoff

my kind thoughts

Paulx

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BballJ — Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:24:48 GMT

Hi Paul,

Thank you for your kind words they mean so much.

I am glad you found something in that quote it is quite incredible. It is said by a motivational speaker whom has no arms and no legs yet uses his time to inspires people and get them out of their ruts. Quite an amazing person.

I will continue to be apart of these forums and help as many people as possible as people like yourself and Geoff have done for me and many others too.

Thanks again Paul 🙂

My best,

Jay

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blondguy — Mon, 16 Jan 2017 22:40:59 GMT

No worries at all Jay 🙂

You are always posting all over the place with great advice

I just read about that motivational speaker and you mentioned he has no arms or legs...

That really is a major reality check for me....what a legend he his Jay

Hope your week is good to you

my kindest

Paul

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laurajayne74 — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:25:13 GMT

I'm glad someone shares my thoughts about crying - I always feel much better after a good cry

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blondguy — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:56:16 GMT

Hello laurajayne74 and Welcome to the Beyond Blue Forums family 🙂

What a heartfelt reply and thankyou too! You are a legend for understanding that having a really good cry is good for the mind & body.

I hope you are doing okay

my kindest thoughts

Paulx

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1113 — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:11:59 GMT

Peaceful hello all,

Crying is indeed helpful.....at times your strong enough to cope with thay emotion.

But what if you are recovering from a major depressive episode and crying creates a chemical imbalance that creates more stress on an already fragile mind?

When I see my specialist he tells me to not see a psychological until my mind is stable. Moreso its unhelpful to my overall health. Having many symtoms is extremely hard. Anxiety has an effect which can send anyone bonkers.

Can also prove unhealthy

Just my story

Peace

EAMatt

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blondguy — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:23:01 GMT

Hey Matt

I just read your post. I took 13 years with infrequent psychiatrists/psychologists and not really paying too much attention to them because I was in denial....(with severe anxiety)

Then saw a mental health care worker (psychiatric nurse) and he said he would treat me as long as I would agree to weekly visits.....ugh! I agreed tho and he had me bawling my eyes out on the 2nd/3rd visit....He got me back to work after a few visits and I still kept my end of the deal and saw him every week for six months..

That was for severe anxiety though....which what I had...My mind wasnt really very stable as I was crook with near agoraphobia.....You have your own doc (specialist) so it might work with you Matt

If you have severe anxiety on its own (which sucks) it will work.....

Peace Back

Paul

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blondguy — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:29:49 GMT

Sorry Matt...Clarification...:-)

I know you have been in a world of hurt recently (like many of us here) which you didnt want....Out of respect I am not going to ask you about your MI as that would be wrong if I did....

I can be here for you Matt if you think I can help even in a small way

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1113 — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:49:26 GMT

Paul,

I'm glad you're here. I'm open to discussing things. Its very difficult what I have. I truly don't know how I do it. I've had to learn for myself as well as from multiple specialist. It has taken me 20yrs to find out what I know now. Having multiple symptoms, I like to call it that, but probably more so, multiple disorders. Expression my thoughts openly and moreso accepting them has been my savour. This I have done here.

Its funny because its been like a jigsaw puzzle. All the info was in my brain. Its just that I was told to believe so many things that weren't true. I had to continually adjust to something new and after awhile, with all that was going on to with the med changes, that I go the poops and decided to manage it more by feeling and not thinking. This opened up a whole new perspective for me.

I start to use more of my subconscious to do my daily work and left my depressed mind behind.

Now that I've cleared or clearing outhat depressed mind I have two accessible separate working areas at once.

So I'm able to use them at the same time.

Soz this might not be the right thread for this

Peace

EAMatt

Ps you helped me get past my post number 666, I'm a bit superstitious. 667mis much better cheers

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blondguy — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:22:15 GMT

Hey Matt, this thread is about having a 'Mind that is tired' Your choice of thread is fine

Okay...Compliment time 🙂

Matt Said: "The brain is an amazing thing I have learnt more about myself on this forum since October then I have in the last 20yrs"

Thats wisdom and experience talking Matt!.....I have mentioned a few times that being on the forums is the best therapy I have had......The Beyond Blue Forums are very under rated when it comes to a site that promotes well being and quality through 'indirect' therapy by just being involved.

We may both have different healing mechanisms but they both work well Matt 🙂

your input and care for Kanga is wonderful not to mention for the bulk of the people who choose to read and not post (approx 60% of the hits on BB) You are helping more people than you realise Matt 🙂

Re: 666.....I still get the shivers when I see the Omen or the Exorcist...even though I was 18 when I saw them in 1978 lmao. Teenagers would probably laugh at me for saying that....but its true! They still creep me out

I get it with changing meds....I did it once in 21 years...1st and last time...I just take my AD every day and an anti anxiety med at night to enable a quality sleep so I can cope better the following day.

I hope you have a good day today Matt 🙂

May the Peace be with you

Paul

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1113 — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:57:51 GMT

Peaceful thanks Paul,

I wish I could take something to help me sleep. My specialist advised me not to take anything. Anxiety meds for me are not good. I would become to dependent on them. I had them before. Unfortunately I require to take more and more and I just become resistant to it. Thats a benzo i speak of. Just me personally.

I also can't take medicine for every disorder I have. I would be like a ticktac box. Rattle rattle LOL. Plus not alive inside at all. Balance although hard is all I have. I cherish this blessing.

So to be able to fix my tired mind I have to exercise very lightly, continuous low level. Remove all stress from my pyshical environment. Eat well. Mediate, relaxation and keep a consistent routine towards health. Atm I have great family support.

This is why this forum is great. I can't see anyone. Its just helpful words from people in a similar boat. My family support me out of love. They try to understand but its difficult for them. Here I find that support. Between the two its just as good as anything.....really.

I have a lot of info and experience on anxiety. Always happy to share my knowledge. I have a lot on a lot of disorders.

You have a good day too.

May the force of duct tape be with you

Peace

Matt.

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1113 — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:07:46 GMT

Clarification

Mediation - high form of relaxation

Mediate- sometimes I need a thrid party to help with major differences in my environment. This is extremely helpful for people with mental illnesses. When I'm well I don't have any issues with that.

Im use them both. I get confused a bit.

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1113 — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:11:47 GMT

Doh meditation wonky eyes.,lol.

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blondguy — Fri, 20 Jan 2017 23:49:19 GMT

Hey Matt

Having 'balance' is a huge part of finding some peace and good on you. Nice1..that is a blessing.

Family support too...very cool Matt

I noticed the great post you wrote to 'No Hope' on the suicide threads. You have a compassionate and gentle way of assisting others using your experience Matt...

kind thoughts

Paul

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white knight — Sat, 21 Jan 2017 00:30:21 GMT

Paul, thankyou for this thread

Metophors are also good to make situations clear in your mind. You have your quote book, a brilliant thing to study regularly.

Some quotes we can create ourselves.

When younger I'd cry so easily and hysterically...always doing so alone. So i made up this Metophor.

"Everyone is a bucket. Most buckets begin to fill when there is hurt. When grief comes along it overflows and in time it reduces and the bucket is empty.

For some of us our bucket has filled with burden rocks. It takes little hurt or trauma for it to overflow and we cry more often than others.

For us to reverse this we need to toss out some rocks by means of therapy, maturity, time or resolution...even basic acceptance.Then we have more room in our bucket for our emotions."

Great posts from others here.

Tony WK