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    <title>topic Why is moving on so hard? in Welcome and orientation</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello MsUnderstand, you weren't to know after 14 years that he was probably hiding all these traits and how often does this happen, it's no different to talking with someone on an online dating site, everything good is said just to entice the person into a relationship, but as soon as this happens, then everything comes out, that's not your fault and you can't blame yourself.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It's better you know now, rather than in two years time after getting married.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You can gain that strength back and in these type of situations, we learn so much because our defence forces are once again raised up to protect ourselves.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You deserve someone who loves you and offers you the respect and the love you've been waiting for.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Take care and please stay in contact with us, that would be great.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Geoff.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 23:59:34 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>geoff</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi all, I’m new to this forum. I’m 55 yrd old and been in a relationship for the past year. Before that I was single for 14 yrs and very happy.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I left a marriage to a violent alcoholic (Who also had affairs).... after 20 years and swore I would not be with an alcoholic ever again!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;i was happy being on my own, if I wasn’t in a relationship, I couldn’t get my heart broken, right?!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;i tried online dating, I had some nice dates but no spark from me. My last date was actually a friend of some people that I know. They all said he is a good guy, although I didn’t feel an attraction, he did seem like a nice guy. One girl told me he does like a drink and he needs to cut back. So I ignored that response flag! &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":see_no_evil_monkey:"&gt;🙈&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;over the year, he has not really gone out of his way for this relationship. I’m a people pleaser so put in way more than I should have. He could not be bothered coming to my house to see me, I would always run to his. A few times I turned up, he was passed out drunk on his verandah in his chair. I knew what I was doing was wrong, I didn’t listen to my gut! &lt;BR /&gt;
My father died this year, 2 weeks later my dog died suddenly. There was no support, no flowers, he didn’t even attend my dads funeral. I felt so unsupported &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":crying_face:"&gt;😢&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;During covid, we really lived together as I was there daily. I would cook and clean, we got along great. I saw that he actually drank more than what he claimed. I ignored this again, I was just happy of he would spend some time with me. We would pretty much go to bed after dinner.... he would sit out in his shed on a milk crate and drink... a lot!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I moved in with him and nothing changed, he would say he had phone calls and continued to sit out in his shed drinking and watching YouTube. I felt so lonely, I hated it! I had major neck surgery, he said he would look after me, he didn’t step up, he actually sat out in his shed and drank even more! I felt so let down by him, I gave my all to this relationship. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I left a few weeks ago, he called me and promised to give up drinking, he loves me and was sorry for how he didn’t step up.I fell for his empty words again (many times this has happened) We were to go on a date on the Saturday night, he cancelled, he said he wanted to work on himself, it’s not goodbye, he needs to give up the drink to have a happy life with me. It broke my heart when I found out that he hasn’t stopped drinking!! I ended it, I said I’m done and don’t contact me again. I know he has a disease, but I just can’t do this anymore &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":loudly_crying_face:"&gt;😭&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":pensive_face:"&gt;😔&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 04:26:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MsUnderstand</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-11T04:26:04Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Hi, welcome 
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&lt;BR /&gt;No doubt you realise that the relationship is over.
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&lt;BR /&gt;What is the consequences of it being over? You gained more experience,  you know you deserve better and you were previously happy being single so now you've returned to that lifestyle.
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&lt;BR /&gt;Yes, it's the grief that you're struggling with. 
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&lt;BR /&gt;Please place this in the search bar and read the first post-war
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&lt;BR /&gt;The best praise you'll ever get 
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&lt;BR /&gt;Repost anytime
&lt;BR /&gt;TonyWK</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 06:01:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>white knight</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-11T06:01:45Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello MsUnderstand..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A very warm and caring welcome to the forums..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think you done the right thing in leaving him...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;He sounds set in his ways and is very happy drinking..he sounds selfish with his time, because he has no time to visit you or help you when you had surgery, nor comforted you when you lost your father and your dog..My deepest condolences dear MsUnderstand...my heart goes out to you..But when you visited him, you cooked, cleaned for him while he sat around drinking....&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;People pleasers can at times not see the red flag at first....I’m pleased you found it eventually and took the best course of action for your well being...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I echo everything our lovely Tony has replied to you..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Knowing that you deserve better..and you doing something about it took courage...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Remember lovely MsUnerstand...that your mental health and Physical Health comes first...Take good care of you..and enjoy your freedom and life away from what sounded like a hard year for you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Feel free to talk here anytime you feel up to it...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My kindest and most caring thoughts..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Grandy...&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 06:53:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ggrand</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Grandy,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you for taking the time to reply to my post. I was quite upset at the time of posting my story (spelling mistakes galore! &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":tired_face:"&gt;😫&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":see_no_evil_monkey:"&gt;🙈&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;wow, that was so reassuring for me to read your reply. I will continue to read it over and over again!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There were times that he said I was insecure, the fact that he would comment about other women had a big impact on that for sure!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;i have been very upset since I ended it only because I Initially ‘thought’ I had met a nice guy (although my gut knew different!) He is a very selfish person and I know that I do deserve better.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;thank you again x&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 12:39:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MsUnderstand</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-11T12:39:47Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear MsUnderstand,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Something I find useful is to consider what I would say to a friend if they were in my situation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Looking at what you've written, I wonder whether it's clear what your answer is?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best wishes.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 12:43:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_342</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-11T12:43:31Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Tony,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I know without a shadow of a doubt that I have made the right decision. I am really struggling with the grief, today was a really bad day. &lt;BR /&gt;
I’m glad that I posted here as reading your replies does help. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I will now go and search your recommendation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;thank you so much for your reply ; )&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 12:52:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MsUnderstand</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Gelati,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have actually asked myself this question and I would be the first person to tell a friend, don’t walk.... RUN! &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If only I took my own advice, then I would have left early on and before I invested way too much of my heart. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;thank you for your reply &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:01:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MsUnderstand</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello MsUnderstand, lovely replies by all and very sorry for the situation you're in,  but someone who drinks alcohol can't say 'they will cut down', especially if they are addicted, so your decision to leave is the right choice, simply because you can't hope what he says will come true, and even if he does stop, you can never know when problems for him begin whether or not it will start again.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;'&lt;EM&gt;Run&lt;/EM&gt;' but with support and don't be emotionally by yourself, we want to help you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best wishes.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Geoff.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 18:14:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>geoff</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Geoff, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I knew in my heart of hearts that he didn’t want to get sober and as you said, if he did, he could relapse. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Looking back, the drink wasn’t the only problem, he was a very selfish person who gave so little of himself to the relationship. Comments about perving on other women were just breaking me down, he was right!... I was insecure and he fed that &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":see_no_evil_monkey:"&gt;🙈&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have to work on getting ME back, I’m actually shocked that after 14 years of healing, I would walk straight back into another damaging relationship. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am so grateful to everyone here for taking the time to reply... it’s helps more than you will ever know.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;thank you ☺️&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 22:21:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MsUnderstand</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello MsUnderstand, you weren't to know after 14 years that he was probably hiding all these traits and how often does this happen, it's no different to talking with someone on an online dating site, everything good is said just to entice the person into a relationship, but as soon as this happens, then everything comes out, that's not your fault and you can't blame yourself.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It's better you know now, rather than in two years time after getting married.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You can gain that strength back and in these type of situations, we learn so much because our defence forces are once again raised up to protect ourselves.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You deserve someone who loves you and offers you the respect and the love you've been waiting for.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Take care and please stay in contact with us, that would be great.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Geoff.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 23:59:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>geoff</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Dear MsUnderstand...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am pleased that you can see that he won’t stop drinking..and that he has been selfish with his time towards you...As our lovely Geoff said...You deserve to be loved and cared for by someone who treasures you for the beautiful person you are...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You’re free from him now sweetheart...Please enjoy your life the best you can...because you so much deserve to have a happy and beautiful life..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here for you..anytime you feel to talk..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My kindest and most caring thoughts...dear MsUnderstand..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Grandy..&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2020 00:55:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ggrand</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Grandy, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;yes it only took me over a year but I’m glad that I finally ended this toxic relationship. Blind Freddy could have seen that there were red flags from the beginning, why I chose to ignore those, I’ll never know?! &lt;BR /&gt;
I do believe that I deserve someone that loves me as much as I love them, loving them wrong person just equates to pain and suffering. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;thank you ☺️&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2020 07:48:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MsUnderstand</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello MsUnderstand, and in your reply to our dear Grandy, sometimes we ignore the 'red flags' because we hope or anticipate that tomorrow will be a better day and if not, then there could be a reason why it hasn't been, but then tomorrow, it will change for the best.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;When this never happens, a relationship can't stay together and any love, whether it's emotional and/or physical aren't strong enough because these broken promises are always being said and disrupting the connection where trust and believe vanish, then it's time to leave.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Take care.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Geoff.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2020 17:50:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Geoff&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I totally agree with you regarding those red flags  and the rational person in me believes that wholeheartedly! My heart however is not aligning with my head today. &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":crying_face:"&gt;😢&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I know that I made the right decision, as hard as it was. It was never going to change and looking back... I wished I walked away before I let my heart get involved. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;thank you Geoff, much appreciated ☺️&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2020 04:18:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MsUnderstand</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-13T04:18:06Z</dc:date>
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