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    <title>topic Hello in Welcome and orientation</title>
    <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/welcome-and-orientation/hello/m-p/515519#M28549</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Caterpilar,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Welcome to the forums. I'm so sorry to hear that you're a bit at your wit's end with your son; you sound like such a loving and caring mum. I'm not a parent and I'm afraid I don't have too much practical advice other than to offer my perspective as a young man similar in age to your son, with my own regrets about stress testing the limits of my support network.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I too have used the "not feeling well" line to excuse or justify inappropriate behavior before or after the fact. I understand that it's tricky because you want to be there for him and be attentive to his needs, but I don't think you're wrong to call it a bit of a "red herring" at times.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You sound like such a good mum and are so attentive to your son's needs. You remind me of my own mum, and for what it's worth as someone now a bit older than your son I've really started in the past few years to appreciate all that she's done for me and see more clearly some of my behaviors as a younger person that were hurtful, unproductive, and doubtless frustrating for her. They were a mixture of my real mental health struggles, and also my own stubbornness– both, not one or the other.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Do you feel like you and your son have the kind of relationship where you can have an honest, loving conversation about where he is in life and where his next/first adventure might take him? I know you said he won't open up, but perhaps in the right setting, or to the right person he might?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Warmly,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Gems&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2020 05:32:32 GMT</pubDate>
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    <dc:date>2020-09-23T05:32:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Hello</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/welcome-and-orientation/hello/m-p/515518#M28548</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm a mother seeking advice on ways to understand, support and help my youngest son, aged 21, who has anxiety and depression. The difficulties are that he is a CLAM, and won't open up to my husband and me; he is creative and very clever and studying at Uni but his degree's face to face hours are not demanding and he doesn't have to exert himself to get by; by nature he is STUBBORN and a bit lazy (I'm not making that up,  stubbornness runs in the family and I'm a bit lazy myself and have to fight it).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;He is also stuck in the logbook of his parents' faults and things which we did (he won't tell us what they are). I'm not being down on him, most kids have a logbook like this, in fact I did, but I know that it's not a source of happiness. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;His mental health is firstly genetic and secondly situational. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I just find it very hard to be friendly and affectionate when he's being a selfish 21 year old male, especially when he flips in the red herring of he's not feeling well. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I know it's harder for him to do stuff but there is an element of just normal poor attitude.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;He also appears to think we are just providers of beer and wifi.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;He has a gaming addiction, and recently has been spending more time on this.  He would easily spend at least 5 hours a day gaming. I realize this is also a form of socialising but it's also an escape mechanism.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;He has a girlfriend but he doesn't socialise with friends and finds family gatherings hard. They are bigger and noisier than normal, with 10 adults and 10 grandchildren 9 and under.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sense my frustration? I need someone to acknowledge that it's hard for family members in a situation like this.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2020 21:44:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Caterpilar</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-09-22T21:44:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Hello</title>
      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/welcome-and-orientation/hello/m-p/515519#M28549</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Caterpilar,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Welcome to the forums. I'm so sorry to hear that you're a bit at your wit's end with your son; you sound like such a loving and caring mum. I'm not a parent and I'm afraid I don't have too much practical advice other than to offer my perspective as a young man similar in age to your son, with my own regrets about stress testing the limits of my support network.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I too have used the "not feeling well" line to excuse or justify inappropriate behavior before or after the fact. I understand that it's tricky because you want to be there for him and be attentive to his needs, but I don't think you're wrong to call it a bit of a "red herring" at times.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You sound like such a good mum and are so attentive to your son's needs. You remind me of my own mum, and for what it's worth as someone now a bit older than your son I've really started in the past few years to appreciate all that she's done for me and see more clearly some of my behaviors as a younger person that were hurtful, unproductive, and doubtless frustrating for her. They were a mixture of my real mental health struggles, and also my own stubbornness– both, not one or the other.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Do you feel like you and your son have the kind of relationship where you can have an honest, loving conversation about where he is in life and where his next/first adventure might take him? I know you said he won't open up, but perhaps in the right setting, or to the right person he might?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Warmly,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Gems&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2020 05:32:32 GMT</pubDate>
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