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    <description>Hi there,
&lt;BR /&gt;Yes hard times  but it is so nice to be welcomed here, I do feel less alone.
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&lt;BR /&gt;Its been a real effort to get out of bed and through the day lately. I try lots of things to help me. Today music, I put on spotify and sang along. It was good.
&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks for posting.
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    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 07:18:15 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Guest_630</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-01-01T07:18:15Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/welcome-and-orientation/returning/m-p/510578#M28171</link>
      <description>Hi, Ive come back to BB as feeling so low. Struggling with daily tasks. There have been a lot of major difficulties in my family, which although ok atm are ongoing. Its hard to get up in the morning. Ive tried counselling and medications. Now trying remedial massage, accupuncture and self help, including exercise. Tough year 2020 and Im reaching out to hopefully get some ideas and motivation.
&lt;BR /&gt;New year tomorow it mustbe better...</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 01:23:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_630</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-31T01:23:03Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey there, I'm in the same boat - came on here because i'm also feeling very low and struggling with daily tasks. I feel you! I can hear your exhausting with the on going family difficulties and finding it hard to get up in the mornings. I really admire that you're doing a lot of things to help yourself out despite your exhaustion, especially still exercising, good on you!! I hope you can feel really proud of yourself for that! I'd be curious to know if you find remedial massage and acupuncture to help? I might give those a try too. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm afraid i don't really have many ideas to give you as i'm also struggling and at a loss myself...but i hope it helps to know that you aren't alone. One thing that i like to remind myself of when I'm struggling is that I've survived every single difficult moment/day/stage of my life so far, and it's all helped me to grow and become stronger to deal with new things as i keep on going. If i look back i can see that i've proved to myself there's no emotion or situation that i cannot handle because i'm still standing (or maybe still struggling at times but point is i'm still here) - even if i struggle to handle something i will still survive it and make it through, and i'll learn from it. I hope that you can feel that for yourself too. &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:05:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Nikki_24</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-31T10:05:23Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Hi Nikki_ 24,
&lt;BR /&gt;Thank you for your kind words, it means a lot to me.
&lt;BR /&gt;I do find massage and accupuncture helps. I have an injury, and chronic pain for many years now and I find they both help relax me which is so beneficial in many ways.
&lt;BR /&gt;Exercising is a real challenge, but when I go for a walk it does help lift my mood. While walking I like to practise enjoying the scenery and try not to think over my problems, difficult at times. 
&lt;BR /&gt;You are right after surviving so much in life I too am still standing, and stronger now.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 20:09:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_630</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-31T20:09:59Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Guest_630 and Nikki_24 and everyone reading &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for reaching out and sharing your stories. many people reading but who don’t post will relate to both of you and they will be reassured they are not alone.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Nikki thanks for reminding us that although we are struggling we have got through things in the past and that has made us stronger.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have found that accepting I am struggling and knowing I will get through it has helped me especially in this last year . &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Guest_60 I like the way you are being flexible in trying new treatments to see if they work. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I find walking outside helps me but lately when there has been rain every day I just walk around my place. It sounds silly but just moving helps me .&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks  both of you for sharing your thoughts with us . &lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:27:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2020-12-31T23:27:31Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;hi all and welcome back to those returning. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;will be odd to refer to it as last year but 2020 was a fairly bad year for everyone so your feeling low is necessarily because we are doing anything wrong, it is just that recent events add to it. So then to roll out that old chestnut of "you are not alone" does apply. It is a positive that you are finding things that work for you, whether it is walking or acupuncture etc. With something such as walking I sometimes have to force myself to do it. Perhaps setting a goal can be helpful. I was listening to a podcast yesterday that talked about this - feeling low at the end of 2020 after doing all the right things. &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 00:26:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>Hi smallwolf,
&lt;BR /&gt;I also like goals and use the mapmywalk app to record my walking progress each week. On weeks when the score is low, I make myself do just a bit each day, and am always glad I made the effort. On todays walk I got soaked.
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&lt;BR /&gt;2020 has been so hard, with many events cancelled and I miss my friends. I am however, so grateful to be in Australia when the news shows Covid case numbers overseas. With bushfires and a pandemic now floods its a year to remember.
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      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 03:53:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi there, welcome back.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm sorry you're struggling, I hope you find something that helps you, including being here. Is there anything I can do?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 04:24:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_4643</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-01T04:24:16Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Hi there,
&lt;BR /&gt;Yes hard times  but it is so nice to be welcomed here, I do feel less alone.
&lt;BR /&gt; 
&lt;BR /&gt;Its been a real effort to get out of bed and through the day lately. I try lots of things to help me. Today music, I put on spotify and sang along. It was good.
&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks for posting.
&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 07:18:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_630</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-01T07:18:15Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey again.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I understand, I struggle getting out of bed everyday too, because of my depression, insomnia, etc. I just want to sleep the days away I guess you could say.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm glad you feel a bit better, music is very therapeutic.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 07:38:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_4643</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-01T07:38:54Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Hi, yes I know what you mean. Depression seems to drain all the energy out of me. 
&lt;BR /&gt;The constant pouring rain is great for the garden but also very dreary. Some sunshine would be really nice now. 
&lt;BR /&gt;Music did help me feel a bit today, so worth doing more often. Thanks for your reply.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 09:55:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_630</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-01T09:55:13Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Hi again, sorry I'm just replying to you now. I understand, it drains all energy out of me too. Yes rain can be nice sometimes. You're welcome for me replying.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 14:35:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_4643</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hey, 3 am and Im wide awake. I feel very low tonight and cant stop the tears. Its so stupid really. I heard someone I knew years ago had died, not a friend, but it was the msg of the hurt and cruelty they left behind. My sadness not for the loss of the person but the lack of kindness, caring and compassion in people, and the need to be distrustful of everyone to stay safe now. 
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      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 17:37:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_630</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-01T17:37:34Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Guest_630&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I feel for you so much as you face the challenges that come with such a low. There can definitely be a lot of them (challenges), some we're not even aware of.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sounds like you're incredibly conscious of making positive differences, such as with coming here, the massage, acupuncture, self help and exercise. That's a lot, a lot to be proud of. Being emotional creatures, I believe sometimes we'll &lt;EM&gt;feel &lt;/EM&gt;the differences and sometimes we won't. I swear I spend a % of my life wondering why I can't feel the difference at times. Often, it comes down to either physical and/or emotional exhaustion. Hard to feel when we've got little energy to feel &lt;EM&gt;with&lt;/EM&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Wondering whether you find life is a bit of an experimentation process. Example, acupuncture alone isn't working, I'll try massage with it. Music's not vibing me up, I'll change the music I'm listening to and even try experimenting with the volume. The greater the volume with some songs, the more emotional the experience. One of my favourite ramp up the volume songs would have to be Lenny Kravitz's 'Are you gonna go my way'. The beat to Scissor Sister's 'I don't feel like dancin' always gets me vibing a little higher. Suppose you'd call it all music therapy.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I find meditation to be a big influence in my life. I'll meditate on just about anything. Yep, I'm a bit of a daydreamer. I'll zone out from life and meditate on the shapes or compositions of clouds, meditate on wonder (wondering why people behave the way they do in the moment), meditate on inspiration (opening my mind to receiving insight, as opposed to focusing on a conditioned type of judgement) and the list goes on when it comes to what's out there to meditate on. I find, it's so important to share life with people who meditate on some of the same things we do, otherwise you're surrounded by people who say stuff like 'Why are you wasting your time on &lt;EM&gt;that&lt;/EM&gt;?!' or 'I don't know why you wonder about that person's behavior when they basically just an a-hole'. Hmmm, the amount of people who can get in our way of us naturally just being our self &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt; While it's good to be grounded, some folk can really have a way of bringing us down, without us even realising at times. Good to have people around us who are looking to vibe with us at the same level. You know, those 'go to' people, when things get a little too challenging.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Wondering if you have any of those 'go to' people in your life.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 21:03:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>therising</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hi there,
&lt;BR /&gt;You are right  I feel emotionally exhausted, after so long being the one helping others I now  have no energy left for myself.
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&lt;BR /&gt;Maybe some music will motivate me.
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      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2021 00:45:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_630</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-02T00:45:58Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey there.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm really sorry I wasn't around, I was trying to sleep at the time although I was struggling like usual to. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm sorry about that person. Are you ok now?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2021 01:21:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_4643</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hi there,
&lt;BR /&gt;No need to be sorry,  you need to get sleep when you can. 
&lt;BR /&gt;Its a tough day for me today. Im being gentle with myself and staying in bed, hope for a better tomorrow.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2021 02:20:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_630</dc:creator>
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      <description>Thank you, and I'm sorry to hear that. Anything I can do?</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2021 03:15:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_4643</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hey again,
&lt;BR /&gt;Thats kind of you, I am a bit better tonight and tomorow is another day. I watched a movie called Pay it forward, it was quite good but had a sad ending so not the best choice. 
&lt;BR /&gt;It is a help to not feel so alone.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2021 07:17:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Guest_630</dc:creator>
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      <description>You're welcome, that's what I'm here for</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2021 07:21:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Guest_630&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Raising others can definitely get exhausting. Sometimes it's like you can't feel yourself gradually draining of energy until, bamm, you hit near zero levels and think 'What the heck happened there?! Why am I suddenly feeling so low?' While I've found the following a potentially depressing question to ask at times, it is a &lt;EM&gt;significant&lt;/EM&gt; question in the way of recognising how &lt;EM&gt;we &lt;/EM&gt;are cared for: 'Who raises the raiser (of others)?' The first time I gave great thought to this question, it presented an epiphany of sorts. It wasn't the fact that some in my life weren't making a significant difference, it was more so the fact that I wasn't triggering others to raise me when I needed it. So...I began triggering people and found some interesting responses among family and friends.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;When I ask the question of others 'If given the chance, how would you raise me in this moment?', I gain insight into their nature. A couple of people I know will typically say 'I don't know' and then just leave it at that. Mmmm, thanks for that. Some will say 'I don't know. How do &lt;EM&gt;you &lt;/EM&gt;want me to raise you or lift your spirits?' By the way, if I knew, I would do it myself. Only a few will think hard about what would &lt;EM&gt;really &lt;/EM&gt;make all the difference to me and they set about making that difference. I always feel that difference. It's amazing how you can be surrounded by people who have the power to make a difference to you but only a few will ever accept the challenge of making that difference. I bet you're the sort of person who does make that difference to others. You're like a light for them, a guide of sorts. This makes you pretty special, indeed &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It's amazing how we can go from 'Why am I not worth the effort' to 'Damn right I'm worth the effort. Why are others so lazy when it comes to making it?' Imagine if folk around us all said 'We have to look after the light, that guide, the one who serves us so beautifully. We must care for the light and always make sure she/he is energised, no matter what this requires of us'.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Never doubt your brilliance in this world, just because others don't know how to take care of it. You will &lt;EM&gt;feel&lt;/EM&gt; when others raise that brilliance in you. You will feel it in a smile they trigger, in a kind word that touches your soul, in an act of service that brings you to life. &lt;EM&gt;These &lt;/EM&gt;are the people who raise us, the ones who make all the difference. I've found the challenge becomes about recognising exactly &lt;EM&gt;who &lt;/EM&gt;those people are in our life.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2021 09:45:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>therising</dc:creator>
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