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    <title>topic Stuck in mud in Welcome and orientation</title>
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    <description>Hello - I’m a newbie on this forum. I’m a senior, with no family and little outside support. I’ve been struggling with depression and anxiety for quite a while now. I have really bad days but do have some reasonably good days too so I’m all over the place. I’m recognising in myself huge lacks in motivation, self-discipline and with waaay too much procrastination about doing what I know will help me so I can move on.  I’ve felt so bad for so long I don’t know how to be any other way. I almost have this feeling of being uncomfortable to be happy again - I’m stuck in a BIG rut. Can someone please help?</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2018 12:41:23 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Portia18</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-05-24T12:41:23Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Hello - I’m a newbie on this forum. I’m a senior, with no family and little outside support. I’ve been struggling with depression and anxiety for quite a while now. I have really bad days but do have some reasonably good days too so I’m all over the place. I’m recognising in myself huge lacks in motivation, self-discipline and with waaay too much procrastination about doing what I know will help me so I can move on.  I’ve felt so bad for so long I don’t know how to be any other way. I almost have this feeling of being uncomfortable to be happy again - I’m stuck in a BIG rut. Can someone please help?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2018 12:41:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Portia18</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-24T12:41:23Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Portia,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Welcome to Beyond Blue Forums, We are a friendly, kind and caring group of people who are happy to help you the best we can.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I can relate to a lot of your story, I'm also a senior, lonely depressed and sad..My family all live over 7-8 hours drive away and I rarely see them..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Depression and anxiety does cause us to loose our motivation, self discipline and keeps us from being happy,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I tried to fix myself of depression for a couple of years and failed at it. Eventually I made an appointment with my gp and told him of how I was feeling, my fears, not wanting to get out of bed etc..She listened and gave me a referral to a psychologist where a mental health care plan was put into action and now I have improved, it's really very hard if not impossible to heal yourself of depression, Please can you try and get some professional help..( only suggesting professional help. it's up to you )..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What I do when I have negative thoughts is to distract my thoughts onto something I like doing. Internet games, tv, puzzles, music, meditation, your mind can only think one thought at a time, so by doing what you like it gives your mind a rest from negative thoughts,..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There is a thread here on getting our daily routine back...in the search box on this page at the top right hand corner please search...Depression and our daily routine...it may help you get motivated even a little, which is good..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Feel free to check out the forums, when you feel to, This is your thread now, and yours to talk whenever you feel up to it..Please keep in touch and let us know how you are going..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Kind thoughts,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Grandy..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2018 13:30:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ggrand</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-24T13:30:33Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Good ideas that I need to think about too Grandy, thank you &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":folded_hands:"&gt;🙏&lt;/span&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2018 00:33:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Speak Your Truth</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-25T00:33:07Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Grandy your reply is appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;i do see a doctor. I am very tired all the time and feel so weak and can’t yet even begin to pull myself out of this. I feel like I want 24/7 company and support, someone to push and encourage me because I can’t do it myself. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;i feel so low I haven’t got words&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2018 02:42:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/t5/welcome-and-orientation/stuck-in-mud/m-p/425093#M21923</guid>
      <dc:creator>Portia18</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-25T02:42:58Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dearest Portia,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Im so sorry,  Deprsession will make you feel the way you have just described how your feeling...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Living alone is so hard to motivate ourselves, I know as I live alone,  in a tiny 200 residents small central west village..No friends i moved here two years ago, because financial reasons made it necessary, that's another story..The locals have all grown up together and I'm the outsider..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have spent days in bed, unmotivated to get up..other days I would get up and move myself to the lounge and stay there until bed...I don't see anyone 6 days out of 7 so my days are long, lonely and sad....just about daily I would be crying most of the day...I searched google for motivation, when I came across anidea on getting back a daily routine..as I was writing it on paper I was also doing it to prove to myself that it would work, and it did..It got me out of bed, got my bed made and  breakfast..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I found that once you do these little chores, that you do get a little bit of energy back...I eventually even went for a walk a few times...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Portia, you haven't been this way always, and believe me you won't be this way always either..this is a phase your going through and i as well as others will try and guide you and help you through it..You are not your depression Portia, you are stronger then your depression you just need to find that strength and want to get you started on your way to wellness.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There are a lot of threads in our wellness section, Please if you feel up to it, just look around for  them and other threads here, you'll find things that might relate to how your feeling, join in the conversation if you feel up to it or just read...  Portia you say you are seeing a dr, is he/she  gp or psychologist?  &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Looking forward to hearing how you're getting on..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;kind thoughts.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;Grandy..&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2018 03:19:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ggrand</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-25T03:19:49Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I understand, someone to motivate you to seek your purpose. I believe we lack support groups in Australia,  I've searched for people to connect with that share similar trauma, so we can learn from each other and support each other more, but haven't been able to find anything.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Have you got a friend or acquaintance that you can start organizing outings with, give yourself something to look forward to&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Fistfullofglitter &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":red_heart:"&gt;❤️&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2018 03:23:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>fistfullofglitter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-25T03:23:47Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Icecream,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Welcome to the forums,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Im really sorry that your feeling angry, tired and sad,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Can I ask you why or what has  caused you to feel angry tired and sad?   only if you feel to answer..no pressure..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Icecream, you have landed onto a supporting thread for Portia, if you could go back to home page, then click onto welcome and orientation,  then new threads you can start your very own thread that would make it a lot easier for you to get the support you need... You're welcome to stay here as well but it's really hard  to support 2 individual topics on one thread..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Good luck and I'll keep an eye out for your new thread.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Kind thoughts, Grandy.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2018 03:35:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ggrand</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-25T03:35:25Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Again, thanks Grandy.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;ive looked at some of the pages you suggested and, don’t like saying it, but found myself thinking ‘yes, but ... ‘ or ‘good idea, tomorrow ... ‘ - just excuses. I’m so good at excuses because ... I’m too tired ? too something ....&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;this might help you, saw on the abc website ‘Residents of Australia's tiniest towns share what happiness means for them’ if you google that it will come up.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;seeing my gp again next week, getting some Beyond Blue New Access support next week too&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Don’t want to but got to shower and go out now Grandy, thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2018 04:04:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Speak Your Truth</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-25T04:04:20Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Oops - Grandy I  thought I was on my thread, but I replied to you on Portia’s thread. Sorry Portia. I’m so not with it. We have things in common it seems.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2018 04:13:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Speak Your Truth</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-25T04:13:21Z</dc:date>
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      <description>That’s ok, I know the feeling.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2018 06:41:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Portia18</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-25T06:41:03Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Grandy and fistful of glitter you are both so kind, thanks for your posts.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;i do watch tv, play internet games sometimes, do breathing exercises etc.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit;"&gt;I &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;do have to go out to buy food obviously but a short trip out and I’m exhausted, so come home and sit too tired for anything often. Takes me a while to get some energy back&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;where I live it’s so quiet most of the time which is good because I don’t like noise. I don’t listen to radio much because a lot of stuff is negative, mindless, music that grates on my nerves. But the quiet here makes it easy to feel like sleeping and I can do that too easily.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;i go back to my doctor soon.  &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;youre right about lack of support groups in Australia fistfulofglitter - especially when it comes to families and neighbours. Australian families are so fractured these days, don’t keep in touch with each other, seems to be much trouble for most. Neighbours don’t want to get involved. So much stigma about mental health. It’s all very sad&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2018 07:02:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Portia18</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-25T07:02:15Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Portia,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I hope you are doing fairly ok today.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Where I live is also quiet, in fact I can go weeks without even seeing a person or even for a car to go down street..  I live on the last street of a tiny village..200 residents...No one comes up my street unless they live here, and the people here just don't go out, it's 70 klm round trip  to just get milk, to expensive in fuel...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I don't do tv very much, only if a game show or fantasy movie comes on...Music hmm I have no reception for the radio..bad eh. The cities have everything the country has zero..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I find the quiet stirs up my C-PTSD a lot so I will usually have a relaxiation cd playing...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Todays music is nothing like the music I grew up..so I'm not missing anything there...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Portia, I hope your week end is good...In saying that my days and nights just run one into the other week end has no significance any more, days are monotonous boring, trying to find something to do daily to keep our minds busy is a must to keep negativity away..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Take care of yourself Portia..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Warm and caring hugs xx&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":hugging_face:"&gt;🤗&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Grandy..xx&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2018 22:32:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ggrand</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-25T22:32:05Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Hi everyone i can relate to these posts stuck frozen is def the way i feel.. its the mornings that are the hardest if i get up and do anything walk sweep clean .. it tends to distract me a lil still have these pang feelings do you get them? I am in my late 50’s and have been a long time suffer just like my parents were.. i do have meds but often wonder if they help or maybe i wld be worse ... i guess its about acceptance and moving but i am stuck a lil now my parents have left this world .. love to chat to anyone that wld like 2 ..</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2018 22:57:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Twinny</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-25T22:57:06Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Twinny,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Welcome to the forums. Well done for reaching out to seek support for yourself. It takes courage to do that..Here you will be treated with kindness and respect, and offered understanding and support from fellow sufferers of mental health conditions&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Im really sorry your struggling with a feeling of being stuck frozen..Do you have  professional help? Twinny, I really would like to talk to you and try to help you but unfortunately you have &lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;landed onto Portia support thread. That's not a problem, you can continue to talk here or on any thread you like at anytime, but &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;I want you to get the support you deserve, and the best way you can do that is by opening up your own introduction thread. To do so, select the tab which says "All Posts". Then select the first forum on the list "Welcome and Orientation". Then on the top right side you will see a tab called "New Thread". Give your thread a title, then your on your way..I would really love to talk to you.. If you want just pop back in here and let me know the name of your thread.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;I will keep an eye out for your new thread,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;Kind and warm thoughts..&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;Grandy..&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2018 23:25:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ggrand</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-25T23:25:19Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks Ggrand. I hope your good&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: inherit; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"&gt;I’m doing ok, sort of. Went out today, no big deal but home again completely drained.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I can’t imagine living in such a small village. Do you have to live there ?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Yeah I know what you mean about weekends have no meaning now they must have ended when Sunday trading started long ago.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I’m all tuckered out, gotta go, nite nite &lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 08:15:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Portia18</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-30T08:15:38Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Good Night Portia,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Im stuck here now Portia, im stuck here the houses here are  so cheap compared to the city or suburbs..If I sell this I can buy or rent in the city. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sleep deep and peaceful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Warm and kind thoughts,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Grandy.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 09:52:56 GMT</pubDate>
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